If you want tickets for iwrestledabearonce on 4/8 in Melrose, MA[views:66145][posts:347]_______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:45am - BSV ""] oh man, that wolves band is terrible. it's every single cliche rolled into a giant cluster fuck of fame seeking hipster "look at me i'm in a band" bullshit. buy an Autopsy album and break up. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:48am - W3 @ work ""] LOL Josh you better go to their show and tell'em oooooor else Brotha ! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:49am - xmikex ""] He's still here. After "2 years". What a trooper. What a saint. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:51am - thirsty ""] Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:53am - tramplethweak ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment Promotor's job: -Book show and promote agreed |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - BSV ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Whatever. I'm over trying to reason with people who decided to be jerks before it was ever warranted. If you want to argue with me more, come to a show and I'll be glad to. Playing shitty music and dressing like you're thug from DOT totally warrants you to be labeled as a shithead playing in a shitty band that no one here likes or wants to care about. You have no clue what's going on. Suck it up. insert, cocksparrer - because you're young |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - largefreakatzero ""] Settle down, junior. I think all the bands here have suffered your pay-to-play business model, we just choose not to anymore. FYI, most of the replies on this are by people in current or past bands that have no problem getting shows. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - largefreakatzero ""] My reply was to thirsty guy by the way. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:57am - BSV ""] thirsty said:Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... it's not a question of trying...it's about you not having to rely on other people to do YOUR job. this is why promoters are useless. you can go ahead and lie to yourself that 700 views will help your show but really it just prooves that 700 people think you suck at your job and that people who want to play and listen to retarded bands flashy logo like said above bands, are in it for the wrong reasons. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:58am - thirsty ""] Bands dont suffer my pay-to-play show, if they cant sell the tickets, say noooooo, im not forcing anything upon a band. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:01pm - BSV ""] the scene suffers with pay to play, not only cause you judge talent by sales but because you promote really shitty music that attracts people who still don't own a vinyl and treat the show like a fashion event. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:03pm - W3 @ work ""] actually you are, you're helping put out shitty shows with shitty bands for shitty kids. love you Hivesmasher |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:03pm - tramplethweak ""] Ive had mostly bad experiences with promoters and booking companies that make you sell tickets. When we book our own shows or jump on a show with a friends band theirs almost always a good turnout and we usually get a little gas money, promoters are irrelevant. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:05pm - thirsty ""] haha,shitty shows... thats awesome, im sure u have never even been to one of our shows @ Rocko's have ya? Come see me sometime! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:05pm - thirsty ""] Keep it coming im gonna defend tickets all day long, Most of u guys play in shitty bands i would never book anyway. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:06pm - BSV ""] i've never heard of those shows, you should promote them better! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:09pm - W3 @ work ""] thirsty said:@ Rocko's why would I bother going to see shitty bands who will sell tickets when promoter or bands in massachusetts or rhode island will put together a great line up of bands that are actually a goodtime. SUPPORT DIY OR GO THE FUCK HOME. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:09pm - darkwor ""] This thread is missing the point here! I WRESTLED A BEAR ONCE is a TERRIBLE MOCKERY OF MUSIC. Kids will go see them at shows and a promoter will make money. WHO THE FUCK CARES. MOVE ON. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:12pm - xmikex ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment Promotor's job: -Book show and promote Most intelligent thing said on the subject. But it leaves out such duties as: spending hours and hours taking merch orders, filling out obnoxious customs forms to mail your merch to weird Russian and Japanese addresses that you don't even understand, shaking down one pissant promoter after another that think he's the biggest thing on earth. Doesn't leave a lot of time for selling raffle tickets. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:13pm - DYA NLI ""] LOL @ thirsty using CSDO logic. "U GAIS R JUST JELOUS U CANT GET ON DIS SHOW, WEER PLAYIN WIF DA NASHNULS JUST LIKE A REAL BAND, BAAAAAAWWW" |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:15pm - DYA NLI ""] Ok, how many posters in this thread have CDs out and/or have headlined shows? I'm guessing better than half. MAKIN IT IN THE BIZ, LOL |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:21pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] IN SOVIET RUSSIA, BEAR WRESTLES YOU AND TICKETS SELL AND FIGHT YOU OR YOU ARE A PUSSY OR A FAGGOT PROMOTER OR SOME SHIT |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:22pm - xmikex ""] One of my favorite stories on the subject: BBA was ona weekend tour headed to the midwest. We were supposed to do a show in Indiana, but the promoter, one of those "booking agencies" that's basically just one dude with a myspace page (sound familiar) was dicking everyone around. He was trying to get the locals to sell tickets, trying to get age restrictions put on the show without telling anyone, acting like a bigshot, etc. Like 2 weeks before we hit the road he gets beat up, and gets the show taken away from him. As we're driving to our first date on the tour the Indiana/Illinois kids out there were setting up a new show. Nobody was officially the "promoter", but all the hardcore kids out there got together, found a venue (a basement on a farm), and got dedicated about getting the word out. We pull up to this farm in the middle of nowhere and there are a shit ton of kids already there. We sell a ton of merch, and all the touring bands (and a couple of locals) get paid very nicely. ALL WITHOUT A PROMOTER. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:24pm - Mattkings ""] Anchors up has better shows and they do not force opening bands to sell a damn thing. The turn outs are great too. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:25pm - W3 @ work ""] is it wrong to wanna hate fuck the two girls in this band and then make them piss on eachother. [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:25pm - the_reverend ""] There are a few different types of promoters on this board. Let me dissect. This is off the top of my head so forgive any inaccuracies or omission. Nothing bad in here, just what I see from 50,000 feet. DistortTrash: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Books limited obscure shows. Bands that no one else would book from countries you have never been to. Knows what they are booking and almost always sells out the venue. Degenerate Booking: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Books shows figuring exactly what they need to do to break even on turn out. Some times they miss on a show, but I hope that the good shows balance out the misses. Misses are usually cause their audience stayed home getting drunk. They are highly active. Massconcerts: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, but both loses and winnings have a company behind them. RobinG: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Loses money on a lot of good shows. gets drunk fuck you. RichHorror: mostly (and currently) puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. sometimes leaves before the money is handed out and then a mysterious stranger gets it. Metal Thursday: puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. People show up. he moshes and does pre-announced stage jumps. Manic: puts on a lot of mixed genre shows. they seem to do well. Josh Hynes: Most flyering ever. Most shows do really well cause he's got a good audience. KM/MLE: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Most shows do really well cause they's got a good audience and the promotion of theb9. I'm thirsty: Lost money on shows, but tries to get openers to sell tickets to play to buffer that. Otherwise kids won't come out to see their friends band play. puts more on the bands to do leg work and kids seem to leave towards shortly after their friends play. Without the ticket sales from bands, give the number of shows, kids would probably play xbox over seeing their friends band and the headliner(s). JoeNotCommon: Loses a lot on most shows. Usually hits up the ATM or Rich Horror. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:26pm - xmikex ""] DYA%20NLI said:Ok, how many posters in this thread have CDs out and/or have headlined shows? I'm guessing better than half. MAKIN IT IN THE BIZ, LOL How many posters in this thread were booking shows when old man thirsty was going through his first mid-life crisis 10 years ago? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:33pm - thirsty ""] haha, old man thirsty |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:41pm - RustyPS ""] the_reverend said:RichHorror: mostly (and currently) puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. sometimes leaves before the money is handed out and then a mysterious stranger gets it. LOL |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:56pm - thirsty ""] For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:03pm - W3 @ work ""] that's not free. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:07pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] This thread is now officially too long for my phone. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:11pm - joeycobra ""] we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:23pm - the_reverend ""] DYA: really? im on my phone... do I need to do pages on txt? |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:25pm - aaron_michael ""] joeycobra said:we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. hopefully you know about the 3rd and 4th. I plan on taking a shit on the streets of Springfield. goddammit, I hate that place. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:29pm - the_reverend ""] there are shows in sprugfied? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:32pm - RustyPS ""] I wish we didn't have to cancel that weekend :( |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:35pm - trampletheweak ""] thirsty said:For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. i heard you ripped aminals off when they tried to tour last summer or something to that effect. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:39pm - W3 @ work ""] i heard he wrestled a bear once and made other people sell tickets |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:41pm - xmikex ""] W3%20@%20work said:that's not free. MOTHERFUCKING FREEDOM ISN'T FREE! |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:43pm - W3 @ work ""] SELL TICKETS TO FREE EVENT OR YOUR BAND IS A PUSSY |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:43pm - Dave_Maggot ""] this thread totally makes me wanna wrestle a bear. god help me if i get injured. goddamn subliminal messages. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:44pm - RustyPS ""] what about wrestling a bear TWICE OH SNAP |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:45pm - Dave_Maggot ""] get the bear, get the bear. wrestle, wrestle |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:49pm - aaron_michael ""] RustyPS said:I wish we didn't have to cancel that weekend :( you and me both. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:53pm - xmikex ""] WRESTLE A BEAR FOR BABY CLOTHES DONATIONS OR BE FORCED TO SELL TICKETS CUZ YOU'RE A PUSSY |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:56pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] the_reverend said:DYA: really? im on my phone... do I need to do pages on txt? I know it does pages, but they're super long. (Unless that's just my phone? There's a "1" and a "2" button at the top when I see pages.) (Also the "bottom" button just refreshes the page, but that may be my phone.) It gets to where the links are expired by the time I can get down to the bottom. *shrug* Pages as a feature would be sweet. I'd totally sell like 50 tickets for that. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:30pm - joeycobra ""] aaron_michael said: joeycobra said:we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. hopefully you know about the 3rd and 4th. I plan on taking a shit on the streets of Springfield. goddammit, I hate that place. I think joe asked me and I said sure....damn thats like....a week from this weekend...we need a drummer. fawkkk |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:34pm - aaron_michael ""] Timmy is doing it! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:35pm - badsneakers ""] OMG LOLZ at me for reading this whole thread at work instead of painting a car |