If you want tickets for iwrestledabearonce on 4/8 in Melrose, MA[views:65837][posts:347]_____________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 2:16am - Wolves of Wysteria ""] Hit us up because we'll be playing and we've got some tickets to move. http://www.myspace.com/wolvesofwysteria |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 4:56am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] pay to play? lame |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:06am - goatcatalyst ""] Playing with "I wrestled a bear once" ... lamer |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:18am - archaeon ""] NO ONE WANTS THESE |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:27am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Selling tickets to open for a t-shirt company with a deathcore house band=lamer than House's leg. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:32am - largefreakatzero ""] Excellent work in this thread already. I heard about 3 seconds of one of this bear wrestling band's song on Sirius and quickly changed the channel. Crappy metalcore that sounds like all the other crappy metalcore. F- |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:36am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I used to be in wrestling bears but they're really boring and terrible now [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:53am - thebloodening ""] make out with the singer. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 2:50pm - JoeyCobra ""] we played with them...really nice guys/gals......fucking god awful band. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 2:52pm - xanonymousx ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 2:54pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Didn't we have this thread when Daughters first came out. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 3:02pm - dreadkill ""] WRESTLE BEARS OR YOU ARE A FAGGOT |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 3:03pm - archaeon ""] I WRESTLED A BEAR ONCE oh wait.... |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 3:09pm - RustyPS NLI ""] dreadkill said:WRESTLE BEARS AND YOU ARE A FAGGOT |
| ________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 3:18pm - xmikex ""] THIS: [img] MEANS NO CARE |
| _________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 3:24pm - moenli ""] I have this band's cd. I kinda dared myself to d/l it and its not ALL bad. There's some terribly gay parts, but when they get heavy they do it well. The girls vocals aren't bad at all actually. Solid lows. She's got no pitch so the clean vocals are shit. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 4:43pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Oh I get it, it's irony. LOL, irony makes being a shitty band okay because they're totally mocking metal. This is the most shockingly original band to ever exist (REAL TALK) |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 5:01pm - joeyumbrella ""] lol at everything on this page |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 5:23pm - largefreakatzero ""] Oh that's a girl assisting in that horrible din? She actually looks not that hideous. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:10pm - Wolves of Wysteria ""] Pay to play? I guess. Selling 30 tickets. I challenge you to find a promoter that DOESN'T want you to presale tickets, though. Anyway, sorry to mistake this website for one with people who give a shit about local music. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:17pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Pay to play? I guess. Selling 30 tickets. I challenge you to find a promoter that DOESN'T want you to presale tickets, though. Anyway, sorry to mistake this website for one with people who give a shit about local music. Get fucked, oh wait, you're participating in pay to play so you already did. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:25pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said: Anyway, sorry to mistake this website for one with people who give a shit about local music. And Rev's 9 years of show pics and even longer on the radio show, along with few dozen bands participating on the boards say hi. Go find a site where your feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings and posturing will be appreciated. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:26pm - immortal13 ""] Put on your own shows, that way you don't need to sell tickets. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:28pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] immortal13 said:Put on your own shows, that way you don't need to sell tickets. Yeah but then they'll never "make it" because the key to "making it" is paying some jerkoff promoter to open for some shitty band that can't draw without having the openers sell tickets to their aunts. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:42pm - Wolves of Wysteria ""] Putting on your own shows is a thing of the past. Promoters are around for a reason. And BobNOMAAMRooney, I'm sorry trying to promote my band has had such a powerful effect on YOUR feelings. I, for one, am thankful that we were given the opportunity to play with four signed, touring bands. We sold 20 tickets to play a show for Rock Karma, who are some of the most awesome promoters in the state. Are you going to hate on them too? I was too hasty in saying the site doesn't care about local music. You're completely right, it and its members care a lot. It's unfortunate that you have to be so damn negative and leave a sour taste in my mouth for trying to be a part of it. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:44pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Putting on your own shows is a thing of the past. Promoters are around for a reason. You're a fucking moron. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:46pm - Wolves of Wysteria ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:46pm - W3 nli ""] LOL @ everything in this thread including thinking people might care about this band here. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 6:50pm - Wolves of Wysteria ""] Whatever. I'm over trying to reason with people who decided to be jerks before it was ever warranted. If you want to argue with me more, come to a show and I'll be glad to. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:00pm - W3 nli ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Whatever. I'm over trying to reason with people who decided to be jerks before it was ever warranted. If you want to argue with me more, come to a show and I'll be glad to. LOL what the fuck are you 16. GTFO |
| _________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:03pm - RustyPS ""] Putting on your own shows is NOT a thing of the past....we do it alot not criticizing....just sayin |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:28pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] RustyPS said:Putting on your own shows is NOT a thing of the past....we do it alot not criticizing....just sayin Didn't you hear? Promoters are around for a reason. If you want to argue about that come to a show. *wanders off to the Wretched Asylum, Twytch, Asystole, Mastamindz scrap heap* |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:29pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] LOL @ life cycle of an RTTP poster |
| _________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:40pm - moenli ""] Haha, promoters are around for a reason indeed. That reason is to make the two opening bands sell 30-50 tickets each so he doesnt have to PROMOTE or pay for the venue or the touring bands. Oh, kids. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 24,2009 7:45pm - Pires ""] guys guys guys. They played with FOUR signed and touring bands. Give them a break. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:09pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] moenli said:Haha, promoters are around for a reason indeed. That reason is to make the two opening bands sell 30-50 tickets each so he doesnt have to PROMOTE or pay for the venue or the touring bands. Oh, kids. OMG YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BOOKING MYSPACE POPULAR TOURING BANDS WHO CAN'T DRAW IS A SRIOUS BUISINESS!!!!111 |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:14pm - darky nli ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:21pm - Dankill ""] Fun fact: I have discovered that the singer's sister also plays guitar for them. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:22pm - dreadkill ""] this thread is hilarious. LULZ @ bands trying to "make it." |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:23pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] bands trying to "make it" are peepee ticklers who probably use "digital" cameras |
| _______________________________ [Mar 24,2009 8:39pm - Murph ""] FUCK ALL Y'ALL I WANT MY BAND TO MAKE IT. LOOK MA, I DUN MADE IT. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:08pm - immortal13 ""] I'm just saying that I have been fucked over by more promoters than I can remember. One that I actually had respect for said that he loved my band for the people that came to see them (I'm not in it anymore) and pulled out a pretty substantial wad of cash while he was saying it. You think any of that money came to said band? Not a dime. We had to rely on the little money we made selling merch to get us to the next show. Promoter is just another term for greedy fuck who doesn't give to shits about the bands he's booking, local or national, but only cares about making money or at least breaking even, because if god forbid he loses $10 he'll never book your band again. Fuck promoters, fuck bands that think promoters are actually there to promote, and fuck you for thinking that promoters have helped you in the least bit when I bet these ticket-selling pay-to-play shows have done little to nothing for your band. All three said things I have just previously said fuck about can go jump in a box of used syringes infected with AIDS. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:11pm - immortal13 ""] I forgot one thing... DIY or die! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:46pm - archaeon ""] lol @ this thread. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:48pm - darky nli ""] Promoters are just like you and me guys, if you are AT ALL at risk of not at least breaking even for a show, would you really lose that money for bands you don't even know? Even for a chick that has wrestled a bear? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 9:51pm - immortal13 ""] I'd honestly pay the bands what I told them I would pay them. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:01pm - Dave_Maggot ""] who wrestled a bear once? |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:08pm - the_reverend ""] first off [img] second: post your show and play along with what comes with it. Getting mad or trying to be rational with people on the internet is the worst idea ever. Like that guy on the elephant reserve said to merge simpsons "some people are just jerks" third: I was thinking of going to this show so I could see who the band is that I have a shirt of cause it says both gay and metal on a shirt. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:09pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] WWKLD What Would Kenny Lanning Do? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:31pm - thirsty ""] Fuck all the haters, ive lost money on locals bands for two years. You dont have to play the show if you dont want to sell the tickets. Wolves i have a lot of respect for you, your willing to work for what you want! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:35pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] ITT: SOUND BUSINESS DECISIONS |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:35pm - thirsty ""] Ok... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:36pm - thirsty ""] and its ITE asshole |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:38pm - archaeon ""] It's not the bands job to sell tickets, there no argument there. SELL 20 TICKETS SO YOU CAN PLAY AT 2:00 PM TO 5 PEOPLE AND BEFORE 26 OTHER BANDS. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:39pm - thirsty ""] They are playing around 6p, and playing probably in front of 150+ people. It is part of the bands job to sell tickets. Like i said if you dont want to sell the tickets, dont play the show. everyone has choices. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:41pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I didn't know the acronym for "In This Thread" was ITE. Then again, I didn't think losing money for two years was something to brag about. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:42pm - thirsty ""] Its not something to brag about, its a reason to make bands sell tickets though. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:44pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Or it's a reason to book touring bands who can draw or book a smaller or cheaper room. We're talking quantum mechanics here. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:46pm - thirsty ""] U must book a lot of shows, seems like you have a lot of knowledge... |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:46pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:They are playing around 6p, and playing probably in front of 150+ people. It is part of the bands job to sell tickets. Like i said if you dont want to sell the tickets, dont play the show. everyone has choices. because people show up to 150+ are going to show up to a show at 6 on a Wednesday to see some band they don't give a shit about? It's NEVER the band's job to sell tickets. ever. Promoters just figured they could trick bands into thinking its the ONLY way they can get on decent shows. I was convinced of this in my early musical career and soon found out through mark's showplace that it is all bullshit. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:48pm - thirsty ""] Doors open at 445pm, there will be people there. I wont argue about who's job it is to sell tickets. I am definetely not Marks showplace. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:48pm - Dave_Maggot ""] iwrestledagrantonce |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:49pm - thirsty ""] the crowd is not going to be people over the age of 30 either so im guessing you wont make it. Kids that are 16-19 years old will be there, just because you dont like the music does not mean people wont be there. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:52pm - archaeon ""] I'm 18 for you information buster. I like good music, and pop punk. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:53pm - RustyPS ""] archaeon said:I like good music, and pop punk. good thing you separated the two.....JAYKAY |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:53pm - thirsty ""] haha ok my fault. I still think your wrong about bands selling tickets. But thats just an opinion. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:55pm - thirsty ""] Pop punk...hey i have and a loss for words playing in manchester 50 tickets!!! interested??? JUST KIDDING.. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:56pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:haha ok my fault. I still think your wrong about bands selling tickets. But thats just an opinion. We'll of course you do, you're a promoter. It makes your job A LOT easier. To the point where you basically don't have to do any promoting because you have a bunch of pawns that get next to nothing out of it doing the dirty work for you. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:57pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] thirsty said:U must book a lot of shows, seems like you have a lot of knowledge... Oh sorry great promoter from on high, I have quite a bit to learn from someone who fancies himself a super serious rock promoter but can't break even for two fucking years. I said it ages ago and I'll say it again BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:If the national act can't draw maybe it's the club's lack of promotion and that band's lack of a fanbase. Shouldn't a "big national act" like Nile be able to draw enough people to cover their costs and make the club a profit? If not then maybe the club should STOP MAKING STUPID FUCKING BUSINESS DECISIONS I love how all the promoters pull the "this is a business you just don't understand" card whenever a band calls bullshit on pay to play. Well if you're going to run it as a business, you book the fucking bands who draw enough to make a PROFIT. I know plenty of people who run businesses and all of them share one thing in common, they won't take on a job if they don't stand to make a profit. Does my fucking mechanic do work on exotic cars on the cheap because Ferrari's are a big draw and then gouge me on my fucking Subaru? Does my uncle lower his costs for some rich bastard who wants his house painted because the house is on the town's list of historic sites and therefore more prestigious? Absolutely not, because anyone who runs an actual business (not playing around with the strip club or Lyons Group's cash and acting important) knows that sound business decisions are what keep them afloat. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 10:57pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:Pop punk...hey i have and a loss for words playing in manchester 50 tickets!!! interested??? JUST KIDDING.. lol my pop punk band has already vowed to never sell tickets under ANY circumstances, EVER. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 11:03pm - Dave_Maggot ""] grant will your pop punk band play with me? you just gotta sell 100 tickets. c'mon, i just bought the neverland ranch for wicked cheap. it'll be worth it. ;) |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 11:05pm - archaeon ""] as long as theres some JB there. thats another thing we vowed to, no touching girls over the age of 15 |
| ________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 11:10pm - Murph ""] I really couldn't care less either way. I just remember selling tickets a few times to play off-date national shows at the Living Room, like maybe 50-75 tickets, and then watch all my friends who bought the tickets leave after we played. So, at least in my tenure of playing with nationals many times, selling tickets and not selling tickets, if someone wants to see the national acts, selling tickets does nothing but make things easier for the promoter, not ANY of the bands. I can't speak for the rest of my band, but if I want to play a show, and it requires selling tickets, I could care less either way. I know who it is helping, but I guess I just don't give a shit...there are definitely bands (Cult of Luna, cough cough) that I would play with even if selling tickets was asked for by the promoter, and definitely would not deter me or make me puff my (bird)chest and get mad about. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 11:23pm - josh_hates_you ""] metal bands would be better at selling tickets if they stopped playing dungeons and dragons and left the basement once in a while. |
| _________________________________________________ [Mar 24,2009 11:53pm - AfterWorldObliteration ""] im gunna go ahead and say that since im 16, the rest of the bands no 16+ rule is invalid. ill just vow that if theyre old enough to pee, too damn old for me. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:42am - ryan_nli ""] i have not read this whole thread, so excuse me if this has been said and defended already... but if this "bear" band is so important, then the promoters should have enough confidence that this band will draw, and not make kids pay their gurantee. and there are plenty of "promoters" who dont "pay to play" putting on your own shows is not a thing of the past. but i wish sub par bands that convince themselves that doing a promoters work for them would become a thing of the past. I can't understand why all these bands today feel the need to do this. so little bands have any real work ethic anymore. they expect everything to be handed to them, or that they have to pay for good things to happen. maybe more bands should spend more time writing credible music that people give a shit about, than trying to hawk tickets to a show that no one gives a fuck about. then if you write good music, good things will happen naturally. end rant. sorry. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:56am - keynotecompany_nli ""] First of all pay to play and selling tickets is a difference. Paying to play to me is straight up buying onto a show paying x amount of dollers to play with x band. Tickets you are selling to people... assuming you sell them... so it's not pay to play because in theory no money should be coming out of your pocket at any point unless you pay upfront. I've done shows with tickets and without and never lost more than $50 on a show (still amazes me). If you know where bands should play and what bands draw, then booking shows isn't rocket science. It's exactly as stated earlier if you don't think the bands will draw and the guarantee is huge... DONT BOOK IT. Nobody is forcing anyone to book a band just because they are on x label. Who cares. As a promoter yes I make money, sometimes a lot of it on some nights. For some people it's a job and that's how it has to be for them. There's more bands than there are places to play and on these touring band shows sometimes bands come to me willing to sell tickets. Why would I refuse guaranteed people/income into a show? I wouldn't. When you do it for a job you can't always risk losing $1000's of dollars a night. Sometimes those 25-100 presales can go a long way. Also a lot of the bands selling tickets are younger bands. I believe they should sell tickets because they are new to music and they have their friends/family that will come out to see them. It showcases work ethic. Bands I'm not familiar with that sell tickets and get the people out help me out because now I know they can draw. I also tend to book bands from different areas so ticket sales bring new people into my area. That's not to say I don't promote. Just because I have bands sell tickets doesn't mean I'm not out at other shows meeting people, passing out fliers, seeing new bands, etc. It takes work, but if you work at it you learn what works and what doesn't. Selling tickets is effective to me. I'm sure people will have a lot to say back to me if they even bother to read it, but there's my 2 years of experience with booking. You can disagree, but I think most people can vouch that I've had solid shows, that are good times. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:56am - ryan_nli ""] also, you cant pay your dues with dollars. you pay your dues by sleeping in vans, and working your way up the hard way. not being spoiled. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:34am - thirsty ""] The solution : Dont advertise ticket's to a show on RTTP. Use other avenues that are more friendly. And like i said if you dont want to sell the tickets, there is another band behind you that does. Get over yourself. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:28am - W3 @ work ""] LOL @ faggots all over this thread and people taking themselves waaaaaaaay too seriously. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:19am - archaeon ""] Promoters are so clueless now that they've now actually convinced themselves that selling tickets isn't a scam. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:24am - Pires ""] my question is: if a band fails to sell any tickets, do they still get to play the show? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:34am - W3 @ work ""] Pires said:my question is: if a band fails to sell any tickets, do they still get to play the show? d'uh dood it's not pay to play so of course if they don't sell all the tickets they just have to hand over the cash to cover the rest of the tickets before their time slot. big difference between pay to play. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:38am - largefreakatzero ""] Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment Promotor's job: -Book show and promote |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:43am - W3 @ work ""] woah woah woah you have to practice and get to the shows up on time. what the fuck is this hitler nazi bullshit |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:46am - reimroc ""] ryan_nli said: maybe more bands should spend more time writing credible music that people give a shit about, than trying to hawk tickets to a show that no one gives a fuck about. then if you write good music, good things will happen naturally. end rant. sorry. people give a shit about this band. its that most of the people here don't |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:55am - aaron_michael ""] this whole thread is full of lulz. especially the boner who's pulling the "say it to my face" act over the internet. I'm actually gonna post to say Thirsty is a good guy. He's always been fair to us and helped us out with some good shows, even when we're just happy to play. He's never asked us to sell tickets, and his joint company(Free For All?) just gave us tickets, and said whatever we sold was cool and we didn't have to pony up the difference. Personally, I'm not down for the pay-to-play business, but from the way I've seen Thirsty work, he's usually pretty fair about dealing with new bands. Maybe pay-to-play one show, awesome time slot on another. Anyways, p2p is silly goose jocking for a constant basis. I Wrestled a Bear Once is silly. Period. .....anyone want to buy a ticket for the Psyopus shows? baaaaahhhhh! |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:08am - xmikex ""] Pay to play: Paying X amount of money to a promoter to get on a show so a promoter can wipe his hands of responsibility. Selling tickets: Having your friends pay X amount of money to a promoter to get on a show so a promoter can wipe his hands of responsibility. Huuuuge diff. The mere fact that Thirsty and his whopping "2 years" of booking experience (LOL) stood up for these naive little kids in their little little band in their little little world tells the whole tale. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:09am - largefreakatzero ""] I don't know the dude, but I laughed at the "2 years" comment too. I guess that's a long time for some people. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:17am - aaron_michael ""] Dave_Maggot said:who wrestled a bear once? it's me. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:20am - dreadkill ""] ITT: merge simpsons |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:20am - dreadkill ""] igrantedmypantsonce |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:21am - aaron_michael ""] iateasandwichonce |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:52am - xmikex ""] dreadkill said:ITT: merge simpsons hahaha I caught that too. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:58am - DYA NLI ""] Starting a thread on RTTP about pay to play and deathcore bands is like pissing on a wasp nest and also an electric fence. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 10:08am - xmikex ""] DYA%20NLI said:Starting a thread on RTTP about pay to play and deathcore bands is like pissing on a wasp nest and also an electric fence. Pissing on a wasp nest on an electric fence and then getting mad when radioactive wasps sting you in the dick. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 10:11am - W3 @ work ""] xmikex said:radioactive wasps sting you in the dick. im sure there's people out there who would pay for that. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:33am - thirsty ""] If a band pays me out of pocket, thats their fault. I ask them to sell tickets not to pay me to play a show, i want people to go to shows....and losing money on locals...Yes i am still here, cuz i care...So solid business decision..Maybe not for you, but it is for me. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:39am - BSV ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Putting on your own shows is a thing of the past. Promoters are around for a reason. Child, you are out of touch. This is the problem with the nu wave of metalcore...it's full of people who can't make decisions on their own. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:42am - W3 @ work ""] I'm not a decision maker, I am the decider |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:45am - BSV ""] oh man, that wolves band is terrible. it's every single cliche rolled into a giant cluster fuck of fame seeking hipster "look at me i'm in a band" bullshit. buy an Autopsy album and break up. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:48am - W3 @ work ""] LOL Josh you better go to their show and tell'em oooooor else Brotha ! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:49am - xmikex ""] He's still here. After "2 years". What a trooper. What a saint. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:51am - thirsty ""] Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:53am - tramplethweak ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment Promotor's job: -Book show and promote agreed |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - BSV ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Whatever. I'm over trying to reason with people who decided to be jerks before it was ever warranted. If you want to argue with me more, come to a show and I'll be glad to. Playing shitty music and dressing like you're thug from DOT totally warrants you to be labeled as a shithead playing in a shitty band that no one here likes or wants to care about. You have no clue what's going on. Suck it up. insert, cocksparrer - because you're young |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - largefreakatzero ""] Settle down, junior. I think all the bands here have suffered your pay-to-play business model, we just choose not to anymore. FYI, most of the replies on this are by people in current or past bands that have no problem getting shows. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:54am - largefreakatzero ""] My reply was to thirsty guy by the way. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:57am - BSV ""] thirsty said:Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... it's not a question of trying...it's about you not having to rely on other people to do YOUR job. this is why promoters are useless. you can go ahead and lie to yourself that 700 views will help your show but really it just prooves that 700 people think you suck at your job and that people who want to play and listen to retarded bands flashy logo like said above bands, are in it for the wrong reasons. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 11:58am - thirsty ""] Bands dont suffer my pay-to-play show, if they cant sell the tickets, say noooooo, im not forcing anything upon a band. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:01pm - BSV ""] the scene suffers with pay to play, not only cause you judge talent by sales but because you promote really shitty music that attracts people who still don't own a vinyl and treat the show like a fashion event. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:03pm - W3 @ work ""] actually you are, you're helping put out shitty shows with shitty bands for shitty kids. love you Hivesmasher |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:03pm - tramplethweak ""] Ive had mostly bad experiences with promoters and booking companies that make you sell tickets. When we book our own shows or jump on a show with a friends band theirs almost always a good turnout and we usually get a little gas money, promoters are irrelevant. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:05pm - thirsty ""] haha,shitty shows... thats awesome, im sure u have never even been to one of our shows @ Rocko's have ya? Come see me sometime! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:05pm - thirsty ""] Keep it coming im gonna defend tickets all day long, Most of u guys play in shitty bands i would never book anyway. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:06pm - BSV ""] i've never heard of those shows, you should promote them better! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:09pm - W3 @ work ""] thirsty said:@ Rocko's why would I bother going to see shitty bands who will sell tickets when promoter or bands in massachusetts or rhode island will put together a great line up of bands that are actually a goodtime. SUPPORT DIY OR GO THE FUCK HOME. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:09pm - darkwor ""] This thread is missing the point here! I WRESTLED A BEAR ONCE is a TERRIBLE MOCKERY OF MUSIC. Kids will go see them at shows and a promoter will make money. WHO THE FUCK CARES. MOVE ON. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:12pm - xmikex ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment Promotor's job: -Book show and promote Most intelligent thing said on the subject. But it leaves out such duties as: spending hours and hours taking merch orders, filling out obnoxious customs forms to mail your merch to weird Russian and Japanese addresses that you don't even understand, shaking down one pissant promoter after another that think he's the biggest thing on earth. Doesn't leave a lot of time for selling raffle tickets. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:13pm - DYA NLI ""] LOL @ thirsty using CSDO logic. "U GAIS R JUST JELOUS U CANT GET ON DIS SHOW, WEER PLAYIN WIF DA NASHNULS JUST LIKE A REAL BAND, BAAAAAAWWW" |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:15pm - DYA NLI ""] Ok, how many posters in this thread have CDs out and/or have headlined shows? I'm guessing better than half. MAKIN IT IN THE BIZ, LOL |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:21pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] IN SOVIET RUSSIA, BEAR WRESTLES YOU AND TICKETS SELL AND FIGHT YOU OR YOU ARE A PUSSY OR A FAGGOT PROMOTER OR SOME SHIT |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:22pm - xmikex ""] One of my favorite stories on the subject: BBA was ona weekend tour headed to the midwest. We were supposed to do a show in Indiana, but the promoter, one of those "booking agencies" that's basically just one dude with a myspace page (sound familiar) was dicking everyone around. He was trying to get the locals to sell tickets, trying to get age restrictions put on the show without telling anyone, acting like a bigshot, etc. Like 2 weeks before we hit the road he gets beat up, and gets the show taken away from him. As we're driving to our first date on the tour the Indiana/Illinois kids out there were setting up a new show. Nobody was officially the "promoter", but all the hardcore kids out there got together, found a venue (a basement on a farm), and got dedicated about getting the word out. We pull up to this farm in the middle of nowhere and there are a shit ton of kids already there. We sell a ton of merch, and all the touring bands (and a couple of locals) get paid very nicely. ALL WITHOUT A PROMOTER. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:24pm - Mattkings ""] Anchors up has better shows and they do not force opening bands to sell a damn thing. The turn outs are great too. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:25pm - W3 @ work ""] is it wrong to wanna hate fuck the two girls in this band and then make them piss on eachother. [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:25pm - the_reverend ""] There are a few different types of promoters on this board. Let me dissect. This is off the top of my head so forgive any inaccuracies or omission. Nothing bad in here, just what I see from 50,000 feet. DistortTrash: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Books limited obscure shows. Bands that no one else would book from countries you have never been to. Knows what they are booking and almost always sells out the venue. Degenerate Booking: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Books shows figuring exactly what they need to do to break even on turn out. Some times they miss on a show, but I hope that the good shows balance out the misses. Misses are usually cause their audience stayed home getting drunk. They are highly active. Massconcerts: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, but both loses and winnings have a company behind them. RobinG: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Loses money on a lot of good shows. gets drunk fuck you. RichHorror: mostly (and currently) puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. sometimes leaves before the money is handed out and then a mysterious stranger gets it. Metal Thursday: puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. People show up. he moshes and does pre-announced stage jumps. Manic: puts on a lot of mixed genre shows. they seem to do well. Josh Hynes: Most flyering ever. Most shows do really well cause he's got a good audience. KM/MLE: Personally does a lot of promoting/Flyering, Most shows do really well cause they's got a good audience and the promotion of theb9. I'm thirsty: Lost money on shows, but tries to get openers to sell tickets to play to buffer that. Otherwise kids won't come out to see their friends band play. puts more on the bands to do leg work and kids seem to leave towards shortly after their friends play. Without the ticket sales from bands, give the number of shows, kids would probably play xbox over seeing their friends band and the headliner(s). JoeNotCommon: Loses a lot on most shows. Usually hits up the ATM or Rich Horror. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:26pm - xmikex ""] DYA%20NLI said:Ok, how many posters in this thread have CDs out and/or have headlined shows? I'm guessing better than half. MAKIN IT IN THE BIZ, LOL How many posters in this thread were booking shows when old man thirsty was going through his first mid-life crisis 10 years ago? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:33pm - thirsty ""] haha, old man thirsty |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:41pm - RustyPS ""] the_reverend said:RichHorror: mostly (and currently) puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. sometimes leaves before the money is handed out and then a mysterious stranger gets it. LOL |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 12:56pm - thirsty ""] For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:03pm - W3 @ work ""] that's not free. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:07pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] This thread is now officially too long for my phone. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:11pm - joeycobra ""] we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:23pm - the_reverend ""] DYA: really? im on my phone... do I need to do pages on txt? |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:25pm - aaron_michael ""] joeycobra said:we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. hopefully you know about the 3rd and 4th. I plan on taking a shit on the streets of Springfield. goddammit, I hate that place. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:29pm - the_reverend ""] there are shows in sprugfied? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:32pm - RustyPS ""] I wish we didn't have to cancel that weekend :( |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:35pm - trampletheweak ""] thirsty said:For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. i heard you ripped aminals off when they tried to tour last summer or something to that effect. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:39pm - W3 @ work ""] i heard he wrestled a bear once and made other people sell tickets |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:41pm - xmikex ""] W3%20@%20work said:that's not free. MOTHERFUCKING FREEDOM ISN'T FREE! |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:43pm - W3 @ work ""] SELL TICKETS TO FREE EVENT OR YOUR BAND IS A PUSSY |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:43pm - Dave_Maggot ""] this thread totally makes me wanna wrestle a bear. god help me if i get injured. goddamn subliminal messages. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:44pm - RustyPS ""] what about wrestling a bear TWICE OH SNAP |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:45pm - Dave_Maggot ""] get the bear, get the bear. wrestle, wrestle |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:49pm - aaron_michael ""] RustyPS said:I wish we didn't have to cancel that weekend :( you and me both. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:53pm - xmikex ""] WRESTLE A BEAR FOR BABY CLOTHES DONATIONS OR BE FORCED TO SELL TICKETS CUZ YOU'RE A PUSSY |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 1:56pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] the_reverend said:DYA: really? im on my phone... do I need to do pages on txt? I know it does pages, but they're super long. (Unless that's just my phone? There's a "1" and a "2" button at the top when I see pages.) (Also the "bottom" button just refreshes the page, but that may be my phone.) It gets to where the links are expired by the time I can get down to the bottom. *shrug* Pages as a feature would be sweet. I'd totally sell like 50 tickets for that. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:30pm - joeycobra ""] aaron_michael said: joeycobra said:we are playing a show? lol I'm soooooo out of the loop. hopefully you know about the 3rd and 4th. I plan on taking a shit on the streets of Springfield. goddammit, I hate that place. I think joe asked me and I said sure....damn thats like....a week from this weekend...we need a drummer. fawkkk |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:34pm - aaron_michael ""] Timmy is doing it! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:35pm - badsneakers ""] OMG LOLZ at me for reading this whole thread at work instead of painting a car |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:42pm - thirsty ""] trampletheweak said: thirsty said:For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. i heard you ripped aminals off when they tried to tour last summer or something to that effect. Sure, i ripped them off...Why dont u ask them? |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:54pm - trampletheweak ""] ill get on that |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:55pm - thirsty ""] u do that! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:01pm - trampletheweak ""] great job! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:03pm - thirsty ""] U too! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:05pm - trampletheweak ""] i'm eating leftover mashed potatoes with melted cheese on top |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:08pm - thirsty ""] Wow, im hungry. Sounds good. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:11pm - trampletheweak ""] :ralphie: |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:16pm - thirsty ""] i just made mashed potatoes, im putting the cheese on it now... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:25pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... CSDO deja vu? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:28pm - thirsty ""] im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. by the way i have csdo... |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:30pm - trampletheweak ""] yuh |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:30pm - W3 @ work ""] LOL @ OLD SCHOOL INTERWEBZ FIGHTING. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:31pm - xmikex ""] CSDO DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR OR YOU'RE A PUSSY! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:32pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:Keep it coming im gonna defend tickets all day long, Most of u guys play in shitty bands i would never book anyway. LOL considering you booked liferuiner and IWABO no one gives a fuck about what you consider "shitty" Although selling tickets may be a wise business choice. But as you should have learned in promotion school there's this thing called business ethics. A band selling tickets in order to play is ethically wrong. Period. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:33pm - thirsty ""] haha, an 18 year old telling me whats ethically wrong... |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:34pm - thirsty ""] By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:37pm - Martins ""] Age has nothing to do with knowledge of ethics. Having to sell tickets to play is good for bands that are aware that they suck and can't get booked. I don't even want to sell tickets to play ever again. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:39pm - Martins ""] By the way, 280 people have terrible taste in music. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:44pm - RustyPS ""] I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:53pm - largefreakatzero ""] Great thread is great. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:55pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. doesn't change the fact that they're absolutely terrible. You're once again looking at it from a completely business aspect as opposed to actually booking good bands. thirsty said:im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. It's kind of funny that a little 18 year old kid is a better businessman than you will EVER be. Also, my penis is bigger than yours. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:05pm - xmikex ""] thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. wow, that's a lot of baby clothes. is that one of the shows you "lost money" on over the last "2 years"? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:08pm - joeycobra ""] aaron_michael said:Timmy is doing it! timmy needs to learn the songs asap then.....actually can we just have him as our drummer? please? We will trade you three mules, 20lbs of fresh churned butter, 3 virgins all 19 years of age, and an undisclosed amount of salted ox meat. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:10pm - RustyPS ""] so Tim's gonna pull double duty both days? .....and mmmmmmmmmmmmmm salted ox meat |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:16pm - dreadkill ""] 280 people at a 250 capacity venue? that's irresponsible, regardless of how shitty the bands are or whether anyone sold tickets to play. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:36pm - keynotecompany nli ""] RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure That shouldn't really effect the show that much. It's completely different people who would come out for each show. Also 280 for Liferuiner is really good. They did around 100 in RI I think the last time they were up here. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:39pm - largefreakatzero ""] [img] Bwahahahahahahaha! I've never heard this band, but I think it's safe to say I don't have to hahahaha. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:41pm - thebloodening ""] just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:42pm - thebloodening ""] largefreakatzero said:[img] Bwahahahahahahaha! I've never heard this band, but I think it's safe to say I don't have to hahahaha. just heard about these guys like 2 days ago, annoying offbeat drumming 2nd rate weird squeeling 2 step hardcore crap...but its good to listen to when im annoyed at work. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:47pm - DYA NLI ""] IS GOATWHORE ON THIS?!? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:47pm - xanonymousx ""] this is all i have, and if you disrespect you have blood on my hands! xXx oMgZ liferuiner r00lzzzzzzzzz show me what oyu gottttttttazzzzzz OOOoghhhppPPpoop stfu liferuiner sucks. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:50pm - xanonymousx ""] but i have met dave, he is a really nice guy. bigger bands have guarantees idk whatever it sucks for bands to have to sell like a marks showplace deal of like 50 tickets, but i dont see anything with like 10. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:52pm - Ryan_nli ""] thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:53pm - thirsty ""] archaeon said: thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. doesn't change the fact that they're absolutely terrible. You're once again looking at it from a completely business aspect as opposed to actually booking good bands. thirsty said:im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. It's kind of funny that a little 18 year old kid is a better businessman than you will EVER be. Also, my penis is bigger than yours. A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:55pm - thirsty ""] keynotecompany%20nli said: RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure That shouldn't really effect the show that much. It's completely different people who would come out for each show. Also 280 for Liferuiner is really good. They did around 100 in RI I think the last time they were up here. The reason i had so many people there is because bands sold 100 tickets before the show started. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:02pm - thirsty ""] RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure I dont think it was attwn that effected that show.... |
| ______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:07pm - BSV ""] thirsty said: A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quality > Quanity You're still a young chap who can't handle himself on a message board. Man up, promote better and stop mooching cash off of shitty music-it's not helping anyone. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:13pm - DYA NLI ""] Yay, thread reached two pages and is now convenient again! IT'S A CELEBRATION, BITCHES |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:23pm - W3 nli ""] DYA%20NLI said:IS GOATWHORE ON THIS?!? recycled humor is funny |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:02pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said: A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make, you're a bad businessman because you book the bands I don't like...... thirsty said:By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow. That's funny because you've asked us to play before and we've played a show at Rocko's, you fucking hypocrite. Also, It's not my fault that Archaeon goes over your head. Not enough chuggerz or do we not have enough MySpace friends? You also missed that we do not have a drummer. so it's pretty unlikely for us to have shows. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:24pm - Martins ""] thirsty said: By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Resorting to insults to defend your "point." You're showing your Not only are you a pretty (apparently) shitty businessman, you are a terrible debater. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:24pm - immortal13 ""] Suggestions for bands trying to make it: Do the hard work yourself. Record your own demos in your basement. Put on your own shows with people your friends with. Book yourself some tours. If you want your band to get anywhere, don't count on playing shows with national acts that don't care about you anyway, and no it doesn't help your credentials. I've opened for a large number of nationals and seen little happen because of it. Do shit yourself, work hard, go on tour and starve on the road without showering for days, and maybe something will happen for you. Suggestions for promoters: As said before in this thread, if you can't count on the national to draw the amount of people needed to pay them off, then don't book that national, unless your willing to lose money in the process without bitching about it. Don't make the bands do the dirty work for you. Book a national band, and then book maybe one or two locals who you know can draw if you really want that much more of a draw, not 15 shitty locals who you wish would draw 20 people each. Selling tickets is not a very promising way to make the money back. Paying attention to what bands you book is. Dave ITE: You are definitely a friend of mine, but as a promoter I'm gonna come out straight and say I can't stand the way you do shows. Obviously I'm not gonna sit here and tell you what to do, I'm just giving advice as to what I think you should do in order to avoid losing a shit ton of money all the time. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:25pm - thirsty ""] ok, whatever u say bud! |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:24pm - keynotecompany nli ""] Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. Interested about Scott Lee's shows..... |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:40pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] So speaking of bands with wolves in their name, the new Wolves in the Throne Room ep Black Cascade is pretty ok. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:50pm - thebloodening ""] Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. there not, but every band usually gets like 50 tickets... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:50pm - archaeon ""] That it is. Thirsty should book them and have 13 winters sell tickets. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:56pm - W3 nli ""] keynotecompany%20nli said: Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. Interested about Scott Lee's shows..... Scott Lee put one of my older bands Throwing Shrapnel on a show with Origin out in western mass and we didn't have to sell any tickets but we did open the show. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:02pm - RichHorror ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment You left out-- -Show up late and ask the promoter if anyone has any cymbals, cabs, heads, kick pedals. etc that you can borrow. -Whine about nobody being there and having to play on a weeknight despite doing no promotion on your own or having anyone come out to see your band. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:02pm - ryan_nli ""] thebloodening said: Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. there not, but every band usually gets like 50 tickets... well thats not entirely true. i never had to sell a ticket, nor did he ever give us tickets to any show he put us on. and we played for him relatively often. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 9:30pm - the_reverend ""] scott lee is more or less part of massconcerts in my post |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:23am - RustyPS ""] keynotecompany%20nli said: RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure That shouldn't really effect the show that much. It's completely different people who would come out for each show. while logic would dictate that, that's what I was told was the reason for the turnout |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:25am - archaeon ""] No one in NH goes to shows for music. It's a social event. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:26am - RustyPS ""] thirsty said: RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure I dont think it was attwn that effected that show....that was the reason I was given by a few people that came out....not you, so I guess they were wrong |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:27am - RustyPS ""] W3%20nli said: DYA%20NLI said:IS GOATWHORE ON THIS?!? recycled humor is funny RECYCLE HUMOR OR YOU'RE A PUSSY sorry I couldn't resist |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:34am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I am proud of where this thread went |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:38am - W3 @ work ""] m|m |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:49am - aaron_michael ""] archaeon said:No one in NH goes to shows for music. It's a social event. agreed. :krusty: @ this thread for still raging on. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 9:10am - joeycobra ""] can't we all just.......................................................................... GET AN ASTRONOMER HOODIE! [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 9:17am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I liek that design because I liek |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 9:46am - SteveSummoned ""] Wolves%20of%20Wysteria said:Putting on your own shows is a thing of the past. Promoters are around for a reason. Like everyone else I beg to differ, those are some of the best shows being run by bands who know the needs of bands and what it means to actually "promote". |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 10:46am - the_reverend ""] but if that is the case.. wouldn't then by default it be the bands selling the tickets/taking money at the door? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 10:53am - thirsty ""] Good point! |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 10:54am - largefreakatzero ""] RichHorror said: largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment You left out-- -Show up late and ask the promoter if anyone has any cymbals, cabs, heads, kick pedals. etc that you can borrow. -Whine about nobody being there and having to play on a weeknight despite doing no promotion on your own or having anyone come out to see your band. Do I take this as a shot at my (ex)band or are you just saying in general? I don't believe you ever booked my band. Also, I can honestly say in the 8 years that my shitty band played shows, we never had to borrow equipment (if we did, we just dealt with one of the other bands, not the promoter). We also rarely played weeknights, so no occasion to whine. I've never had any delusions of grandeur about music or "making it". Caring about things is extremely gay. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:24am - W3 @ work ""] i think rich was just talking about some of the bands he's personally booked. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:27am - xmikex ""] the_reverend said:but if that is the case.. wouldn't then by default it be the bands selling the tickets/taking money at the door? Big difference between having somebody work the door out of necessity, and a promoter making bands sell raffle tickets. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:33am - Murph ""] joeycobra said:can't we all just.......................................................................... GET AN ASTRONOMER HOODIE! [img] That looks like a mighty fine product, sir. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:41am - thirsty ""] xmikex said: the_reverend said:but if that is the case.. wouldn't then by default it be the bands selling the tickets/taking money at the door? Big difference between having somebody work the door out of necessity, and a promoter making bands sell raffle tickets. Promoter selling raffle tickets?? wow, i need to go to that venue, maybe i can win some money! |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:49am - joeycobra ""] Murph said: joeycobra said:can't we all just.......................................................................... GET AN ASTRONOMER HOODIE! [img] That looks like a mighty fine product, sir. Yes it is quality....and captures the pure essence of an Astronomer set in this white ink mountain print on forest green & brown hoodies.....call and order now as quantities are limited. We will also throw in exclusive Astronomer stickers, throw pillows, and coupons to JoAnn Fabrics for Grandma! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 12:46pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] JoAnn Fabrics? POSERS ONLY MICHAEL'S IS REAL |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 12:50pm - xmikex ""] SAFTLERS FTW |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 12:51pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] BUY EVERYTHING AT AMES |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:07pm - xanonymousx ""] I rock this sweatshirt every day. it makes JJ happy, although he did ask me where his royalties are for the record.:thescream: i believe its in the most jokingly way possible:krusty: |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:07pm - xanonymousx ""] there is now an astronomer sticker in the bathroom of fox hall. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:18pm - Kevord ""] I read this whole thread and can't believe not one person used the term "Hobby Rockers". |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:20pm - thirsty ""] I love my astronomer sweatshirt!! best $75.00 i ever spent |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:22pm - tramplethweak ""] wow that 7.5 tickets! |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:22pm - tramplethweak ""] that's* |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:25pm - thirsty ""] haha |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:28pm - RustyPS ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:BUY EVERYTHING AT AMES ZAIRES FTW |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:29pm - largefreakatzero ""] RustyPS said: BobNOMAAMRooney said:BUY EVERYTHING AT AMES ZAIRES FTW ZAYRES IST KVLT |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:29pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] RustyPS said: BobNOMAAMRooney said:BUY EVERYTHING AT AMES ZAIRES FTW [img] |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:30pm - RustyPS ""] JOKE FAIL U GO HOME NAO |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:32pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:32pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:33pm - RustyPS ""] lol amazing |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:33pm - aaron_michael ""] Kevord said:I read this whole thread and can't believe not one person used the term "Hobby Rockers". shhhhhhh! no. she is legend.... |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:34pm - RustyPS ""] come on I Am Hollywood is a good record |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:35pm - Eli_hhcb ""] W3%20@%20work said:is it wrong to wanna hate fuck the two girls in this band and then make them piss on eachother. [img] I think they guy who took our pictures took this too. I remember seeing it on his site. j pettinato |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:41pm - W3 @ work ""] get their contact info, i got some hate fucking to do. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:44pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] msd said:is it wrong to wanna hate fuck the two kids in the back and then make them piss on eachother. [img] FIXED |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:47pm - W3 @ work ""] LOL |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:51pm - goatcatalyst ""] Zayres used to have a Dunkin Donuts AND a video rental shop at its Meriden, CT location. Got so many fucking MASK and GI Joe toys and oldtimey skate and rasslin videos there. Zayres > trendy sandbox faggot pseudometal... unless that singer chick with the shitty star tattoos is into anal of the Rocco Siffredi persuasion. Or perhaps the J.Dwyer variation where she'd let me shoot the rocket from my Miles Mayhem "Outlaw" tanker into her yawning arse-maw over and over again while watching old Bones Brigade videos. In which case, she may have a slight edge over Zayre's. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:52pm - W3 @ work ""] well now I have no idea what you're talking about, but go on. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:53pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] SEARCH FOR ANIMAL CHIN OR YOU ARE A PUSSY |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:54pm - W3 @ work ""] W3%20@%20work said:well now I have no idea what you're talking about, but go on. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 1:59pm - RustyPS ""] goatcatalyst said:Zayres used to have a Dunkin Donuts AND a video rental shop at its Meriden, CT location. Got so many fucking MASK and GI Joe toys and oldtimey skate and rasslin videos there. Zayres > trendy sandbox faggot pseudometal... unless that singer chick with the shitty star tattoos is into anal of the Rocco Siffredi persuasion. Or perhaps the J.Dwyer variation where she'd let me shoot the rocket from my Miles Mayhem "Outlaw" tanker into her yawning arse-maw over and over again while watching old Bones Brigade videos. In which case, she may have a slight edge over Zayre's. EPIC FUCKING POST |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:05pm - largefreakatzero ""] ZAYRES AND ANIMAL CHIN IN THE SAME POST? IT'S MORE LIK...never mind, I think my brain just exploded from the double time-machine action that just occured. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:08pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] DID SOMEONE JUST MENTION LANCE MOUNTAIN JASON JESSEE TOMMY GUERRERO AND ORANGE JULIUS? I BELIEVE I JUST DID~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1.21 GIGAWATTS AND SUCH QUADRUPLE TIME MAECHEEEN! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:20pm - largefreakatzero ""] OH NOEZ CHRISTIAN HOSOI AND GATOR!!!!1!!! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:26pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] HAI JESSICA WANT TO HANG OUT? I DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU I JUST WANT TO BASH YOUR FUCKING BRAINS IN |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:39pm - largefreakatzero ""] "According to Rogowski, he had come up behind her and hit her in the head with a Club (a metal auto anti-theft device). After knocking her semi-unconscious by way of several strikes, he dragged her to his bedroom on the 2nd floor and raped her. Afterward, he placed her in a surfboard bag because he was concerned about the neighbors hearing the noise. He placed his hand over her mouth until she stopped breathing. He then drove out to the desert to bury her body in a shallow grave. Rogowski pleaded guilty to rape and murder, and received a 31-year prison sentence.[1] He will be eligible for parole in 2009." OH NOEZ GATORZ GETTIN OUT! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:40pm - largefreakatzero ""] I had forgotten he bludgeoned her with "The Club". |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:40pm - brownonomer ""] What a shameless bit of self promotion Joey. By the way our hoodies also come in brown ;) Rev, maybe you can get me another modeling photoshoot, show a sequence of me taking off the hoodie and my hair blowing in the wind. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:44pm - the_reverend ""] whoah. dude. no homo. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 2:44pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] largefreakatzero said:"According to Rogowski, he had come up behind her and hit her in the head with a Club (a metal auto anti-theft device). After knocking her semi-unconscious by way of several strikes, he dragged her to his bedroom on the 2nd floor and raped her. Afterward, he placed her in a surfboard bag because he was concerned about the neighbors hearing the noise. He placed his hand over her mouth until she stopped breathing. He then drove out to the desert to bury her body in a shallow grave. Rogowski pleaded guilty to rape and murder, and received a 31-year prison sentence.[1] He will be eligible for parole in 2009." OH NOEZ GATORZ GETTIN OUT! ALL PULLING BENIHANAS AND JAPAN AIRS ALL BRANDISHING A CLUB IN A THREATENING MANNER |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:21pm - DYA NLI ""] My old band had a song about Gator. The CD opened with the intro music from Skate or Die 2. LOL @ Animal Chin. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:23pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] SKATE OR DIE...SKATE OR DIE D-D-D-DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:24pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] bennyhillifier |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:31pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] DWYER IN MY SKATE OR DIE 2 @ 0:16? bennyhillifier It's more likely than you think. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:34pm - Yeti ""] thanks for reminding me that my band did pay to play more than once. one of the stupidest things i've ever been a part of. i shed a tear once again for the days of old. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 3:49pm - unholy_dave ""] W3%20@%20work said:i think rich was just talking about some of the bands he's personally been in. fixed. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 4:30pm - joeycobra ""] brownonomer said:What a shameless bit of self promotion Joey. By the way our hoodies also come in brown ;) Rev, maybe you can get me another modeling photoshoot, show a sequence of me taking off the hoodie and my hair blowing in the wind. Hijacking the thread to be about our sick hooded sweatshirts. :spineyes: |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:02pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Having worked with Dave Thirsty for about 6 months, I can confidently say that as a person, Dave is a good guy. He actually does have a heart, especially for his family who he's trying to support. But as a promoter, I did not enjoy having to email bands who wanted to play our shows about them having to sell tickets or they couldn't play the show. I also had to tell them, under Dave's direction, that if they didn't draw at least 10 people, we weren't going to book them again. Since he's had new people do his work for him, all the booked shows that Rocko's has are suffering. There are too many scene kids running the gauntlet and it sucks. There used to be some really good bands coming through southern NH but since last year, it's all gone to shit. It's only bands who are on the top of the scene kid brigade with bands like Brokencyde, Iwrestledabearonce and Liferuiner. It seems like promoters these days only care about how much money they make and not the quality of shows they're booking. It's really too bad because my old band, The Cadaveric Manifesto, has played for Dave and every Rocko's show we played was a disappointing experience. We never saw a dime for anything we played and I told Dave straight up that I am never selling tickets. Not enough of my friends care about Metal so I don't bother asking them to buy into something they don't like. The whole music industry is surprisingly still running despite the terrible business decisions. In my opinion, 2 years of booking shows is nothing. 2 years is when you start doing anything and making an impact. Keyword there is START. I got accepted to Great Bay Community College this week. I'm taking their Liberal Arts - Business program. I plan on either starting my own booking/promotion company or my own label. Having had the limited experience in the music industry, I still know better than to do it the way that everyone else in this area has been doing it. Selling tickets and pay-to-play shows be damned. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:06pm - W3 nli ""] unholy_dave said: W3%20@%20work said:i think rich was just talking about some of the bands he's personally been in. fixed. you dont go online lol and yeaaaaaaaah that muuuuuust be it lol :spineyes: |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:47pm - thirsty ""] MillenialKingdom said:Having worked with Dave Thirsty for about 6 months, I can confidently say that as a person, Dave is a good guy. He actually does have a heart, especially for his family who he's trying to support. But as a promoter, I did not enjoy having to email bands who wanted to play our shows about them having to sell tickets or they couldn't play the show. I also had to tell them, under Dave's direction, that if they didn't draw at least 10 people, we weren't going to book them again. This is why you dont work for me anymore. Since he's had new people do his work for him, all the booked shows that Rocko's has are suffering. There are too many scene kids running the gauntlet and it sucks. Actually we have had local shows sell out, and things have been great! I dont know where people are getting that im hurting... There used to be some really good bands coming through southern NH but since last year, it's all gone to shit. It's only bands who are on the top of the scene kid brigade with bands like Brokencyde, Iwrestledabearonce and Liferuiner. It seems like promoters these days only care about how much money they make and not the quality of shows they're booking. It's really too bad because my old band, The Cadaveric Manifesto, has played for Dave and every Rocko's show we played was a disappointing experience. We never saw a dime for anything we played and I told Dave straight up that I am never selling tickets. Not enough of my friends care about Metal so I don't bother asking them to buy into something they don't like. You did sell tickets for me, dont you remember. And you never saw a dime, cuz no one came to see you. You did not draw, your drummer even fell asleep at a show you were playing.. The whole music industry is surprisingly still running despite the terrible business decisions. In my opinion, 2 years of booking shows is nothing. 2 years is when you start doing anything and making an impact. Keyword there is START. I got accepted to Great Bay Community College this week. I'm taking their Liberal Arts - Business program. I plan on either starting my own booking/promotion company or my own label. Having had the limited experience in the music industry, I still know better than to do it the way that everyone else in this area has been doing it. Selling tickets and pay-to-play shows be damned. Good luck booking metal shows, save your metal kid! |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:49pm - immortal13 ""] I've said everything I feel should be said. All that's left to be said is lulz that people are still getting bitchy in this thread. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:51pm - archaeon ""] MillenialKingdom said: I got accepted to Great Bay Community College this week. I'm taking their Liberal Arts - Business program. I plan on either starting my own booking/promotion company or my own label. Having had the limited experience in the music industry, I still know better than to do it the way that everyone else in this area has been doing it. Selling tickets and pay-to-play shows be damned. To be honest you don't really need to get a business degree to run either of those things. Mostly passion for it an a little bit of common sense. I'm going to be going to Belmont University (in Nashville) for a degree in Music Business starting next year. Booyah |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 5:55pm - immortal13 ""] I do however want one of them astronomer hoodies. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 6:03pm - MillenialKingdom ""] archaeon said: MillenialKingdom said: I got accepted to Great Bay Community College this week. I'm taking their Liberal Arts - Business program. I plan on either starting my own booking/promotion company or my own label. Having had the limited experience in the music industry, I still know better than to do it the way that everyone else in this area has been doing it. Selling tickets and pay-to-play shows be damned. To be honest you don't really need to get a business degree to run either of those things. Mostly passion for it an a little bit of common sense. I'm going to be going to Belmont University (in Nashville) for a degree in Music Business starting next year. Booyah Well, I know that but I figure if I have a better grasp of the financial aspect of running a professional business than I will do better with it. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 6:04pm - MillenialKingdom ""] thirsty said: Good luck booking metal shows, save your metal kid! Thanks but I don't need luck. I care about Metal shows more than you apparently, my friend. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 6:09pm - immortal13 ""] Thems fightin words right thar |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 6:16pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I don't care about making a quick buck off this shit, I wanna do it because I love it. I go to shows because they're awesome and I would think that the people putting them on would actually fucking care about them too. As soon as people stop booking shitty bands like Iwrestledabearonce, the trendiness of this crap will stop. Stop feeding the fags, Dave. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 6:42pm - thirsty ""] fags eat food too man, as a christian ( u claim to be ) dont you have to be nice to everyone? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 8:24pm - RichHorror ""] unholy_dave said: W3%20@%20work said:i think rich was just talking about some of the bands he's personally been in. fixed. A little from column A, a little from column B. Dave isn't my friend anymore apparently. :( |
| __________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 9:17pm - archaeon ""] I keep on wanting to grammar nazi dwyer thirsty, it's bugging me. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 10:32pm - brownonomer ""] Just a reminder, Astronomer hoodies. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 26,2009 11:00pm - anonymous ""] joeycobra said:can't we all just.......................................................................... GET AN ASTRONOMER HOODIE! [img] HAVE YOU SEEN THESE HOODIES FUCK DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:36am - unholy_dave ""] RichHorror said: unholy_dave said: W3%20@%20work said:i think rich was just talking about some of the bands he's personally been in. fixed. A little from column A, a little from column B. Dave isn't my friend anymore apparently. :( that's not true, i love a richard of abhorrence |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:39am - RichHorror ""] I WAS THAT NIGGA THAT WOULD HAVE DIED 4 U :(((((((((((( |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:40am - Hungtableed ""] HC/Metal hybrid band names are getting gayer by the minute. Joke or not, it's not funny...it never was. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:41am - RichHorror ""] Come see I Saw A Bus Once But That Dont Make Me A Bus Driver on tour this summer |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 2:06am - Hungtableed ""] I almost googled it to see if it actually was a band name. I wouldn't be surprised by anything these days...even if it was: "I once saw a Pussy on the Internet get fucked anally so I guess I've done anal" |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 2:08am - Hungtableed ""] sorry...I meant Ioncesawapussyontheinternetgetfuckedanallysoiguessivedoneanal |
| ______________________________ [Mar 27,2009 7:32am - Yeti ""] MillenialKingdom said:I don't care about making a quick buck off this shit, I wanna do it because I love it. I go to shows because they're awesome and I would think that the people putting them on would actually fucking care about them too. you know, i believe you more than i would most people. you seem legit. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:23am - sinofangels-ray ""] am I too late 4 this thread ...i was just hoping to get a tix to the show? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:26am - RustyPS ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:33am - aaron_michael ""] tickets, pizza, hobby rockers, and bears. oh my. [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:34am - W3 @ work ""] NO NOT YET |
| ________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:34am - xmikex ""] This thread tongue wrestled a penis once. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:37am - xmikex ""] Aaron, boooooooooooooooooooo. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:37am - RustyPS ""] aaron_michael said:tickets, pizza, hobby rockers, and bears. oh my. don't forget ASS-TRONOMER HOODIES |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:45am - W3 @ work ""] xmikex said:This thread tongue wrestled a penis once. [img] I GOTTTZ THESE CHEEZBURGHERS MAHN |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:47am - largefreakatzero ""] RustyPS said: aaron_michael said:tickets, pizza, hobby rockers, and bears. oh my. don't forget ASS-TRONOMER HOODIES And mid-eighties professional skateboarders. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:47am - joeycobra ""] How many of the kids at the show will look like this???........now ask yourself how badly they need a crucial Astronomer hoodie...and how much cooler they'd be with one!!!! [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:52am - aaron_michael ""] Iwrestledanentirepartyonce [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 8:55am - W3 @ work ""] aaron_michael said:Iwrestledanentirepartyonce [img] why am i not invited to these parties |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:11am - aaron_michael ""] who says you're not? |
| ________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:13am - xmikex ""] THIS PARTY'S JUST GETTING STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!! [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:15am - W3 @ work ""] aaron_michael said:who says you're not? the restraining orders from mass and nh :( |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:17am - RustyPS ""] xmikex said:THIS PARTY'S JUST GETTING STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!! [img] AW SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:20am - aaron_michael ""] W3%20@%20work said: aaron_michael said:who says you're not? the restraining orders from mass and nh :( I won't tell if you don't. >:] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:21am - W3 @ work ""] aaron_michael said: W3%20@%20work said: aaron_michael said:who says you're not? the restraining orders from mass and nh :( I won't tell if you don't. >:] DAAAAAAAAAAAMN, HEY DID I MENTION..... W3%20@%20work said: [img] I GOTTTZ THESE CHEEZBURGHERS MAHN |
| __________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:25am - DYA NLI ""] Congrats W3 on the 300th post in this awesometarded monstrosity of a thread. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:32am - W3 @ work ""] FUCK YEAH, DOES I GET TO KEEPS MY CHEEZ BOORGERS NOI |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:33am - aaron_michael ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:34am - W3 @ work ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:37am - RustyPS ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:42am - xmikex ""] ITT: Bobby Knight reacting to Thirsty McPoser telling him he has to sell tickets to the Final Four. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:44am - largefreakatzero ""] Hahaha |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:44am - RustyPS ""] xmikex said:ITT: Bobby Knight reacting to Thirsty McPoser telling him he has to sell tickets to the Final Four.LMAO |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:45am - W3 @ work ""] [img] SELL TICKETS OR GTFO |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:46am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 9:53am - aaron_michael ""] xmikex said:ITT: Bobby Knight reacting to Thirsty McPoser telling him he has to sell tickets to the Figure Four. Fix'd. LOL:satancross: |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 11:18am - niccolai ""] I wish I saw this thread earlier... I would have pushed brown all over this. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 11:30am - xanonymousx ""] W3%20@%20work said: aaron_michael said:Iwrestledanentirepartyonce [img] why am i not invited to these parties was this before or after pete got me in a choke hold? |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 11:35am - aaron_michael ""] probably after |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 11:38am - xanonymousx ""] actually yes it was after, goodtimes. now lets watch THOR bennyhillifier |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 12:28pm - joeycobra ""] xanonymousx said: W3%20@%20work said: aaron_michael said:Iwrestledanentirepartyonce [img] why am i not invited to these parties was this before or after pete got me in a choke hold? [img] |
| __________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 12:44pm - RustyPS ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 12:47pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Yeti said: MillenialKingdom said:I don't care about making a quick buck off this shit, I wanna do it because I love it. I go to shows because they're awesome and I would think that the people putting them on would actually fucking care about them too. you know, i believe you more than i would most people. you seem legit. I'm being serious though. There's too much corruption these days in the booking industry. I think the reason why I'm Thirsty has survived is because they're one of the only "companies" in NH bringing the bigger tour packages around. Mark's Showplace does but no one likes them and their staff are gay. ITE has been able to keep the tour packages coming only because he finds naive, scenester teenage moshcore bands to sell tickets for him. It's almost a necessary evil. My approach to the whole thing is to do it the right way and pay the bands that deserve it. I want to bring as many good bands to my area as possible and give them what they need to survive. I think the bands with more experience deserve more because they've worked harder. The bands that are just starting out won't be playing shows with a silver spoon in their mouths. They have to work for it. My plan is to make friends, not enemies. I think Dave should stop caring what we think about him here and do his own thing until someone comes along and does it better aka ME. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 12:49pm - xmikex ""] MillenialKingdom said: I'm being serious though. well fucking cut it out. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:09pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Son of a bitch, I'm so sorry. Wanna fight about it? It can be the new RTTP boxing fight. No MMA though. No homo. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:15pm - aaron_michael ""] The thought of Brendan IRL fighting Mike crossed my mind and I LOL'd at work |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:15pm - joeycobra ""] RustyPS said:[img] DUURruururuRRUUrrururuUUUUuRRRUURRRuuRRR DURRdurdurdurdurDURRRRRRRRR [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:17pm - W3 @ work ""] they scare easily but they'll be back and in greater numbers |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:17pm - aaron_michael ""] [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 1:18pm - MillenialKingdom ""] aaron_michael said:The thought of Brendan IRL fighting Mike crossed my mind and I LOL'd at work Brandon* |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 2:11pm - joeycobra ""] keeping this on the first page! bear wrestling bands are must see.....buy MOAR TIX!!!!! |
| ________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 2:19pm - xmikex ""] Brandon should fight Brendan. IRL. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 2:58pm - brodown ""] DID YOUR DAD EAT YOUR DAD |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 3:50pm - MillenialKingdom ""] xmikex said:Brandon should fight Brendan. IRL. There's a Brendan on the board? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 4:20pm - W3 nli ""] yup St Jude singer |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 4:45pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Oh. I don't everyone's names on here. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 7:24pm - brownonomer ""] Iwrestledmydadonce. Hebeatmeanddidntfeedmefor8days. Idontseehimmuchanymore. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 27,2009 11:38pm - xanonymousx ""] MillenialKingdom said: Yeti said: MillenialKingdom said:I don't care about making a quick buck off this shit, I wanna do it because I love it. I go to shows because they're awesome and I would think that the people putting them on would actually fucking care about them too. you know, i believe you more than i would most people. you seem legit. I'm being serious though. There's too much corruption these days in the booking industry. I think the reason why I'm Thirsty has survived is because they're one of the only "companies" in NH bringing the bigger tour packages around. Mark's Showplace does but no one likes them and their staff are gay. ITE has been able to keep the tour packages coming only because he finds naive, scenester teenage moshcore bands to sell tickets for him. It's almost a necessary evil. My approach to the whole thing is to do it the right way and pay the bands that deserve it. I want to bring as many good bands to my area as possible and give them what they need to survive. I think the bands with more experience deserve more because they've worked harder. The bands that are just starting out won't be playing shows with a silver spoon in their mouths. They have to work for it. My plan is to make friends, not enemies. I think Dave should stop caring what we think about him here and do his own thing until someone comes along and does it better aka ME. didn't you work for this guy or something, personallty a lot of people say 'hey bandA has played with bandB which is successful maybe giving band A sucess. but whatever giving people a chance i guess, if the bandB is big enough band A will easily sell the 10 tickets to play in front of many scenester type kids who cares if the band sounds like shit.... IME just booked Number12lookslikeyou, they're aren't really emo but whatever man. i thought you liked all these cool bands like acacia strain and emmure anyways didn't you buy a $50 ticket for that show in decemember? go buy an astronomer hoodie 100% cotton :tmnt2: |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 12:23am - MillenialKingdom ""] GO BUY YOUR OWN ASTRONOMER HOODIE OR YOU'RE A PUSSY! |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 12:35am - xanonymousx ""] oh i have an astronomer hoodie, its 100% cotton fits nice, keeps me warm during the cold weather, easy too wear around town, guy from the red chord commented on how cool it was last time we hung out. yeahh dude. its awesome. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 12:59am - MillenialKingdom ""] I've been thinking about getting one but I'm broke now. I have to save up for school and continue supporting my daughter. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 1:19am - xanonymousx ""] cancel the internet |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 1:38am - MillenialKingdom ""] [img] [img] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 4:37pm - astr0n0mer ""] hoodies |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 28,2009 4:46pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] hoodies would have contained the brain splatter above. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 30,2009 7:44am - MetalThursday ""] the_reverend said: Metal Thursday: puts on shows that no one cares about money at. gets drunk. People show up. he moshes and does pre-announced stage jumps. Oooh, I'm really gonna make you earn your free admission from now on... no more pre-announcing my stage jumps! |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 30,2009 8:37am - aaron_michael ""] first page FTW |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 30,2009 12:15pm - joeycobra ""] Gimme YO Astronomer HOODIESSSSSSS! [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 30,2009 3:13pm - MillenialKingdom ""] "Girl with the big face. It's as big as a dinner plate." |