If you want tickets for iwrestledabearonce on 4/8 in Melrose, MA[views:65844][posts:347]_________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:42pm - thirsty ""] trampletheweak said: thirsty said:For everyone that thinks im a douchebag. I am doing a free show on Friday April 24th @ Rocko's - 253 Wilson St, Manchester NH 03103 . It is all ages and all you need to do is bring something that we can donate to the homeless shelter here in Manchester NH. All we are asking for is canned food, toys , clothing, baby food, anything you would like to donate that is worth something. A Representative from the Homeless shelter will be at Rocko's taking your donations, so you dont think im keeping any of it. Bands playing are SEEKER DESTROYER , HIVE SMASHER , AMINALS , HAMMER HANDS and ASTRONOMERRRRRRRRRRR!!! Please come out and support a good cause! Show starts around 630pm and Rocko's does have a bar. i heard you ripped aminals off when they tried to tour last summer or something to that effect. Sure, i ripped them off...Why dont u ask them? |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:54pm - trampletheweak ""] ill get on that |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 2:55pm - thirsty ""] u do that! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:01pm - trampletheweak ""] great job! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:03pm - thirsty ""] U too! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:05pm - trampletheweak ""] i'm eating leftover mashed potatoes with melted cheese on top |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:08pm - thirsty ""] Wow, im hungry. Sounds good. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:11pm - trampletheweak ""] :ralphie: |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:16pm - thirsty ""] i just made mashed potatoes, im putting the cheese on it now... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:25pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:Yep i am a saint!! i love this 700 views for this!! amazing, thank you all u pissed off metal heads that cant get on shows because ur unwilling to "try" and sell tickets..... CSDO deja vu? |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:28pm - thirsty ""] im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. by the way i have csdo... |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:30pm - trampletheweak ""] yuh |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:30pm - W3 @ work ""] LOL @ OLD SCHOOL INTERWEBZ FIGHTING. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:31pm - xmikex ""] CSDO DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR OR YOU'RE A PUSSY! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:32pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:Keep it coming im gonna defend tickets all day long, Most of u guys play in shitty bands i would never book anyway. LOL considering you booked liferuiner and IWABO no one gives a fuck about what you consider "shitty" Although selling tickets may be a wise business choice. But as you should have learned in promotion school there's this thing called business ethics. A band selling tickets in order to play is ethically wrong. Period. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:33pm - thirsty ""] haha, an 18 year old telling me whats ethically wrong... |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:34pm - thirsty ""] By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:37pm - Martins ""] Age has nothing to do with knowledge of ethics. Having to sell tickets to play is good for bands that are aware that they suck and can't get booked. I don't even want to sell tickets to play ever again. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:39pm - Martins ""] By the way, 280 people have terrible taste in music. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:44pm - RustyPS ""] I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:53pm - largefreakatzero ""] Great thread is great. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 3:55pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. doesn't change the fact that they're absolutely terrible. You're once again looking at it from a completely business aspect as opposed to actually booking good bands. thirsty said:im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. It's kind of funny that a little 18 year old kid is a better businessman than you will EVER be. Also, my penis is bigger than yours. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:05pm - xmikex ""] thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. wow, that's a lot of baby clothes. is that one of the shows you "lost money" on over the last "2 years"? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:08pm - joeycobra ""] aaron_michael said:Timmy is doing it! timmy needs to learn the songs asap then.....actually can we just have him as our drummer? please? We will trade you three mules, 20lbs of fresh churned butter, 3 virgins all 19 years of age, and an undisclosed amount of salted ox meat. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:10pm - RustyPS ""] so Tim's gonna pull double duty both days? .....and mmmmmmmmmmmmmm salted ox meat |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:16pm - dreadkill ""] 280 people at a 250 capacity venue? that's irresponsible, regardless of how shitty the bands are or whether anyone sold tickets to play. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:36pm - keynotecompany nli ""] RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure That shouldn't really effect the show that much. It's completely different people who would come out for each show. Also 280 for Liferuiner is really good. They did around 100 in RI I think the last time they were up here. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:39pm - largefreakatzero ""] [img] Bwahahahahahahaha! I've never heard this band, but I think it's safe to say I don't have to hahahaha. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:41pm - thebloodening ""] just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:42pm - thebloodening ""] largefreakatzero said:[img] Bwahahahahahahaha! I've never heard this band, but I think it's safe to say I don't have to hahahaha. just heard about these guys like 2 days ago, annoying offbeat drumming 2nd rate weird squeeling 2 step hardcore crap...but its good to listen to when im annoyed at work. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:47pm - DYA NLI ""] IS GOATWHORE ON THIS?!? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:47pm - xanonymousx ""] this is all i have, and if you disrespect you have blood on my hands! xXx oMgZ liferuiner r00lzzzzzzzzz show me what oyu gottttttttazzzzzz OOOoghhhppPPpoop stfu liferuiner sucks. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:50pm - xanonymousx ""] but i have met dave, he is a really nice guy. bigger bands have guarantees idk whatever it sucks for bands to have to sell like a marks showplace deal of like 50 tickets, but i dont see anything with like 10. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:52pm - Ryan_nli ""] thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:53pm - thirsty ""] archaeon said: thirsty said:By the way liferuiner sold out, 280 people came. Venue holds 250. doesn't change the fact that they're absolutely terrible. You're once again looking at it from a completely business aspect as opposed to actually booking good bands. thirsty said:im not even gonna bother with u dude, ur pretty much a pathetic little kid. Im getting off this site before i make you cry. Have a good night. It's kind of funny that a little 18 year old kid is a better businessman than you will EVER be. Also, my penis is bigger than yours. A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 4:55pm - thirsty ""] keynotecompany%20nli said: RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure That shouldn't really effect the show that much. It's completely different people who would come out for each show. Also 280 for Liferuiner is really good. They did around 100 in RI I think the last time they were up here. The reason i had so many people there is because bands sold 100 tickets before the show started. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:02pm - thirsty ""] RustyPS said:I've never heard Liferuiner, but I do know that the last time we played Rocko's barely anyone showed because of an apparent And Then There Were None CD release show down the street, and our show had Astronomer, Hive Smasher, Cargo Cult Revival, and Biclops....so go figure I dont think it was attwn that effected that show.... |
| ______________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:07pm - BSV ""] thirsty said: A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quality > Quanity You're still a young chap who can't handle himself on a message board. Man up, promote better and stop mooching cash off of shitty music-it's not helping anyone. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:13pm - DYA NLI ""] Yay, thread reached two pages and is now convenient again! IT'S A CELEBRATION, BITCHES |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 5:23pm - W3 nli ""] DYA%20NLI said:IS GOATWHORE ON THIS?!? recycled humor is funny |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:02pm - archaeon ""] thirsty said: A better business man....wow, just because i dont book your type of bands, does not mean i am a bad business man, What your doing is showing your age...and crying over something silly... Get over it. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make, you're a bad businessman because you book the bands I don't like...... thirsty said:By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow. That's funny because you've asked us to play before and we've played a show at Rocko's, you fucking hypocrite. Also, It's not my fault that Archaeon goes over your head. Not enough chuggerz or do we not have enough MySpace friends? You also missed that we do not have a drummer. so it's pretty unlikely for us to have shows. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:24pm - Martins ""] thirsty said: By the way i noticed your band ( i went on myspace ) ur band is pretty shitty and u only have one show...WOW...U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Resorting to insults to defend your "point." You're showing your Not only are you a pretty (apparently) shitty businessman, you are a terrible debater. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:24pm - immortal13 ""] Suggestions for bands trying to make it: Do the hard work yourself. Record your own demos in your basement. Put on your own shows with people your friends with. Book yourself some tours. If you want your band to get anywhere, don't count on playing shows with national acts that don't care about you anyway, and no it doesn't help your credentials. I've opened for a large number of nationals and seen little happen because of it. Do shit yourself, work hard, go on tour and starve on the road without showering for days, and maybe something will happen for you. Suggestions for promoters: As said before in this thread, if you can't count on the national to draw the amount of people needed to pay them off, then don't book that national, unless your willing to lose money in the process without bitching about it. Don't make the bands do the dirty work for you. Book a national band, and then book maybe one or two locals who you know can draw if you really want that much more of a draw, not 15 shitty locals who you wish would draw 20 people each. Selling tickets is not a very promising way to make the money back. Paying attention to what bands you book is. Dave ITE: You are definitely a friend of mine, but as a promoter I'm gonna come out straight and say I can't stand the way you do shows. Obviously I'm not gonna sit here and tell you what to do, I'm just giving advice as to what I think you should do in order to avoid losing a shit ton of money all the time. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 6:25pm - thirsty ""] ok, whatever u say bud! |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:24pm - keynotecompany nli ""] Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. Interested about Scott Lee's shows..... |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:40pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] So speaking of bands with wolves in their name, the new Wolves in the Throne Room ep Black Cascade is pretty ok. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:50pm - thebloodening ""] Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. there not, but every band usually gets like 50 tickets... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:50pm - archaeon ""] That it is. Thirsty should book them and have 13 winters sell tickets. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 7:56pm - W3 nli ""] keynotecompany%20nli said: Ryan_nli said: thebloodening said:just play a few shows for scott lee, then you'll know to just stop crying and fucking deal with it if you care about playing music... Scot Lee makes bands pay to play? I played shows for him for years, ranging from shows no ones at, to downstairs palladium shows and never once have ticket sales been a requirement. Interested about Scott Lee's shows..... Scott Lee put one of my older bands Throwing Shrapnel on a show with Origin out in western mass and we didn't have to sell any tickets but we did open the show. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 25,2009 8:02pm - RichHorror ""] largefreakatzero said:Last time I checked this is a band's "job": -Buy a fuckload of gear -Practice, practice, practice 2-3x/week -Load all gear and band members into vehicle(s) -Travel ___ hours and arrive to show on time -Unload all said gear -Wait around for hours to play for 30 minutes (if lucky) -Break down and reload all gear in vehicle(s) -Travel____hours back to jam space -Reload all equipment You left out-- -Show up late and ask the promoter if anyone has any cymbals, cabs, heads, kick pedals. etc that you can borrow. -Whine about nobody being there and having to play on a weeknight despite doing no promotion on your own or having anyone come out to see your band. |