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[QUOTE="XmikeX:6954"]haha there is is again in my head...that image of people stamping out some little message to me about how much of an asshole I am because I don't like what they like, with their mad face on....hilarious. lets see shall we: A. speaking of getting facts straight, I never said anything about the Accursed. They're obviously a very talented band, their drummer (from my understanding) taught Eric IDN to play drums. I'm hardly a fan of their music, and if prompted to I'd make that known, but for the purpose of this argument I never said anything about the Accursed....oh shit, did that just ruin half your statement? my bad. and for the record, any band willing to cough up enough money, or with a label willing to do the same can play milwakee metal fest. i know this, did you? coal chamber played milwakee too, i don't see you polishing their scene points. B. in dire need most certainly got it's roots from metal. Ross (who founded the band) was in Vengence in Blood, and Beyond the Sixth Seal to name a few bands. Eric was in Thousands Shall Fall. Dave was in VIB too. What they play is death grind. May not be Deicide, but hey, here's a radical thought.....maybe every death band shouldn't sound like Deicide....maybe. and if there are any "fashioncore kids" in the IDN fanbase they are a minority. C. the red chord drew alot of their influences from hardcore GIVEN, but a majority of their influences came from death metal. Old Red Chord was a much better example of their metal influences, but they're still very much there and they're far from being your a-typical ""metalcore"" band. D. hardcore to me is madball, buried alive, strife, slapshot etc. Not a band with slam death breakdowns, grind riffs, blast beats and an 8 foot tall cape verdean kid screeching and growling (i.e. in dire need). They're a metal band that appeals to hardcore kids for the same reason Dying Fetus and Internal Bleeding do...they're fun. That seems to be the mysterious factor that has evaded people like you who think you're perpetuating some righteous cause by bashing other people in defense of "true metal"....i listen to what I listen to because it's fun. Talent is great. Talent is wonderful. Everyone can appreciate talent to some extent. But the bottom line is, if it's not fun to listen to, if the shows aren't fun to goto then why bother? Standing around banging my head and yelling "PANTERA" at some band at a bar isn't fun to me. E. ""And you get something straight, I dont give a fuck if you like my friends band, or any other band. Frankly we'd rather you dont."" Works for me dood, seems to me like you're the one having a hard time letting it go. F. ""but if you dont want people calling you out maybe you should stop saying bands that could play circles around you and any band you've been in have no talent."" Said it before, and i'll say it again. I love arguing with you people. I really do. It's actually pretty good warm ups for all the papers I have to write for school. Secondly, I never accused anyone of being talentless, If I said anything I said they sucked. because they do.....they suck. if i said so, then thats my opinion. if i didn't, don't put words in my mouth. G.""Or maybe you should say it to their face instead of hiding behind message boards? "" So now I have to register all of my opinions with bands personally? Pffft. Theres lots of bands that I think suck, and I don't owe them a thing. I don't owe it to them to take the time to find out who they are, approach them and then explain to them in critical detail the hows and whys of my feelings on their capacity to suck. If you'd like to pay for my airfare and expenses so I can travel to Sweden to personally inform Dimmu Borgir that they suck then I'm all for it. Otherwise you've got nothing. Or better yet how about you establish a metal complaint department for everyone to register and file their complaints? Lemme ask you.....every time you've heard a band that sucks....do YOU goto their houses and tell them how awful they are? nope. H. I've been going to metal shows since I was 14. I've got nothing to prove to you lady i don't even know. But once again, you can keep the title "metal" and wear it around like the burger king crown that it is, i don't need it. Maybe it's an alien concept to you, but I don't need a pile of Hammerfall cds to define myself. I. you got wicked mad and sunk to my level, perhaps beneath it. i win. again.[/QUOTE]
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