SHADOWS FALL SINGER TEAMS UP WITH PETA2 TO LEAVE FANS A MESSAGE[views:9649][posts:84]______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:53am - the_reverend ""] SHADOWS FALL SINGER TEAMS UP WITH PETA2 TO LEAVE FANS A MESSAGE Brian Fair Records Voice-Mail Greeting and Grants Exclusive Interview at peta2.com Norfolk, Va. - Shadows Fall lead vocalist Brian Fair might belt out hardcore with a vengeance, but he refuses to take part in the war on farmed animals. That's why Brian recorded a greeting for peta2-PETA's youth-focused division-that urges people to help animals by going vegetarian, and fans can download it into their voice-mail. "What's up?" begins the recording. "This is Brian Fair from Shadows Fall, and the person you're trying to reach wants you to know that the meat and dairy industry are based on suffering and cruelty ..." Brian started thinking about going vegetarian when he was in eighth grade, after listening to The Smiths' "Meat Is Murder." "It was just this feeling I had that I could no longer be part of the cycle of death," he says in an exclusive interview at peta2.com. Brian also believes that one reason so many people accept the abuses of farmed animals is that the cruelty is "faceless," far removed from everyday life, and that sometimes people need to be jolted back to reality. Most chickens, pigs, and cows on factory farms spend their entire lives in extremely crowded stalls, cages, or crates, often unable to turn around or take even a single step. Most see daylight only once in their lives-when they are being shipped to the slaughterhouse. "Anyone who wants to go to a slaughterhouse or check out PETA's videos will see-it's completely shocking," says Brian. "It's a lot easier just to see a Happy Meal than to see a carved-up carcass." Brian Fair joins an ever-growing list of musicians-including My Chemical Romance, Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, and Converge-who have teamed up with peta2 to inspire kids to challenge outdated, cruel attitudes about animals. Also featured on peta2.com are celebrity interviews, message boards, downloadable iron-ons, and chances to win great prizes like free concert tickets, CDs, autographed merch, and more. To hear and download Brian's message and to read his exclusive interview, please visit peta2.com. Shadows Fall will be on the main stage at Ozzfest, from July 15 to September 4. For more information, please visit ShadowsFallRocks.com. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:55am - blue ""] and this is going to convince millions of nu metal kids to go veggie? ok. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:56am - DreamingInExile ""] I'm BBQing steak tips and chicken wings... who's in? |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:56am - litacore ""] I'll have the gristle |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:57am - powerkok ""] Good....go vegan. More meat for me. More anti-bodies for my immune system to fight off disease and illness'. Fine with me. Cow hugging tree lickers |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:58am - powerkok ""] DreamingInExile said:I'm BBQing steak tips and chicken wings... who's in? Im down... Ill take mine bloody! |
| _________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:58am - soloman ""] PETA's message is wack. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:59am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Turning animal liberation into a Hot Topic commodity, the ironing is delicious. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:59am - DreamingInExile ""] powerkok said:DreamingInExile said:I'm BBQing steak tips and chicken wings... who's in? Im down... Ill take mine bloody! HAHAHA, I was just gonna ask: "Bloody as hell or burnt to a crisp?" |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:00pm - DreamingInExile ""] powerkok said:Cow hugging tree lickers Don't you mean "Tree hugging Cow lickers?" |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:00pm - powerkok ""] soloman said:PETA's message is wack. Wiggity wack yo. snap. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:01pm - powerkok ""] DreamingInExile said:powerkok said:Cow hugging tree lickers Don't you mean "Tree hugging Cow lickers?" negative...if they licked cows, they would want to eat one. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:02pm - DreamingInExile ""] powerkok said:DreamingInExile said:powerkok said:Cow hugging tree lickers Don't you mean "Tree hugging Cow lickers?" negative...if they licked cows, they would want to eat one. true... |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:04pm - the_reverend ""] damn.. there's a hell of a lot of responses to this. personally, I choose not to consume animals. hopefully, someone here dies of mad cow disease. and then dissector will write a song about you. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:06pm - DreamingInExile ""] the_reverend said:damn.. there's a hell of a lot of responses to this. personally, I choose not to consume animals. hopefully, someone here dies of mad cow disease. and then dissector will write a song about you. see Rev, I respect people and their beliefs, and you choose not to eat meat, that's fine, but you're not telling other people what to do (i.e. DON'T EAT MEAT!) PETA can suck a fat one though, I'm gonna go make some burgers |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:07pm - the_reverend ""] the only meat I eat is soylent green. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:08pm - ~Carina~ ""] i got a similar email when DCFC did seomthing similar almost posted it here too |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:09pm - Josh_hates_you ""] mmmmm steak. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:10pm - powerkok ""] just you wait till theres a mad soy disease !! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:11pm - anonymous ""] i respect veggies and vegans, but PETA are a bunch of fucking mental cases. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:11pm - DreamingInExile ""] AHAHAHAHAHAHA Mad Soy disease |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:11pm - anonymous ""] oh and p.s., alot of veggies and vegans i know agree with this fact^^^^ |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:12pm - powerkok ""] you will see skinny mostly white mid-upper class ppl walking the natural food stores like zombified hippies!!! |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:13pm - DreamingInExile ""] anonymous said:i respect veggies and vegans, but PETA are a bunch of fucking mental cases. I respect them so long as they'r enot trying to shove their beliefs down my throat... same thing with religeon: "do what you will, but leave me out of your life's plans" is my view on that... |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:13pm - powerkok ""] Mad soy disease exists, I just havent released it yet! |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:14pm - DreamingInExile ""] AHAHAHAHAHA |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:15pm - the_reverend ""] I agree that peta's got a bunch of screwballs. the only thing I support PETA doing is releasing all their videos of animal crulty. ogrish can't get enough of guy+chainsaw=pigparts |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:16pm - DreamingInExile ""] the_reverend said:ogrish can't get enough of guy+chainsaw=pigparts AMEN!!!! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:16pm - anonymous ""] i didnt know the rev was a veggie. how long? |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:17pm - powerkok ""] that guy was way too into that !! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:18pm - powerkok ""] anonymous said:i didnt know the rev was a veggie. how long? Is his Hog? Carina says its huge. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:20pm - DreamingInExile ""] powerkok said:anonymous said:i didnt know the rev was a veggie. how long? Is his Hog? Carina says its huge. THIS CLASSIC MONENT IN RTTP BOREDOM BROUGHT TO YOU IN PART BY: PowerKOK :duffbeer: |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:22pm - powerkok ""] hahahaha you got it...Im gonna go do something semi productive now. Ill most likely be back in 5 minutes. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:22pm - DreamingInExile ""] haha, yeah, CounterStrike dosen't count as semi-productive... |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:42pm - KillerKadoogan ""] sorry guys, no more meat for me. brian fair's magical dreadlocks of wisdom have shown me the light. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:46pm - DreamingInExile ""] KillerKadoogan said:sorry guys, no more meat for me. brian fair's magical dreadlocks of wisdom have shown me the light. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:51pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I don't care who goes vegetarian, all I know is when I went to the doctor's office last he was in awe of how good my cholesterol was. Funny like that. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 12:56pm - soloman ""] I dont think eating meat is inately wrong. If you think that the industry is cruel, then i can understand pushing for a more humane industry. But Peta says "animals aren't ours to eat" which sounds completely silly to me. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:16pm - Jesus_Slaves ""] Penn and Tellers Bullshit! did something on all this hoopla about animal rights and environmental crap. watch that show. it will make you hate all these activists even more. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:18pm - Jesus_Slaves ""] i'll make a band called "Llama Obliterator" and team up with Cattle Decapitation, Sheep Grinder and Pig Destroyer and call it the "Veganism is Stupid" tour. even though Cattle Decapitation is into PETA. oh the irony. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:25pm - soloman ""] http://petakillsanimals.com |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:25pm - the_reverend ""] I've not eaten veal since 1986-ish. I've not eaten cow since 1990-ish (that was on a bet with my friend which I won in 99 when he was stuck in europe). and then starting in 1994, I eat chicken 3 times a year.. it would be something like in may, I would decide "ok, time to eat chicken.." and then go to the dinning hall or mcd's and order chicken sandwiches until I wanted to die. then in Novemember, I would have chicken fingers. that slowly dropped from 3 in 94 to 0 in 99. the last piece of meat I knowingly ate was a mcd's chicken sandwich. I basically grew up with hippie parents and we had to kill animals ourselves and stuff like that. after snuffing out my last animal, a turkey in 97-98, I realized that I couldn't do that again and if I wasn't able to kill and eat the animal myself, I would be a coward to stand behind the butchers who do it. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:28pm - the_reverend ""] I think that if you can't go out an kill, skin, and cook a cow/deer/chicken/fish/wombat then you shouldn't be allowed to buy them at shaw's or mcd's. If it were up to me, I would make a licensing process for eating meat. It would have a bunch of pictures of animals on it. when you kill one, that animal gets x'd out. and then you can buy them at the store from that time forth. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:35pm - ~Carina~ ""] i tried it in highschool and then college and gave up.. then when i met aaron ..well he made it easy to not eat meat. Now whichever of us cooks dinner or whatever, it's just easy |
| ______________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:39pm - tomx ""] no no no, humans were never meant to eat meat. thats why we have incisors and canines, used to grip and cut meat. and thats why vegans are so healthy, having to take an army of vitamins and supplements every day and still have the shittiest immune system on the face of the earth. on average, vegans die 5-7 years earlier than people who comsume meat, but abstain from red meat. its a free country and if i want to eat a chicken, thats what im gonna do. keep it to yourself. any vegan peta faggot who's gonna cry about it is gonna get punched in thier brittle, weak ribcage. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 1:52pm - the_reverend ""] our mouth is a potpurri of teeth types there tomx. it's not that we are "meant" to eat meat. what we are "meant" or "made" for is to be ready to eat EVERYTHING cause we are opportunistic scavengers by design. there are plenty of fruit-eating animals that have both canines and incisors. and there are meat eaters than have molars. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 2:08pm - humanbonedeathmachine ""] man rev, the last meat you ate was mcd's. thats sad. you couldve done it right and got something like a cornish game hen. hell if the only meat i ate was mcds id be veg too. that shits swill. at least i have no problem killing to eat. ive killed deer, i filet fish that i catch ice fishing every year and a lot of times once i bring them inside and they start warming up, they start moving again when i cut em. once the meat gets cut off we throw the fish in a bucket of water and it tries to swim, but with no meat it goes into shutdown and dies. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 2:09pm - humanbonedeathmachine ""] next year ill take pics of the meatless fish in a bucket. it would make awesome CD cover art |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 2:11pm - soloman ""] we were built for eating both meat and some plant life. we're omnivores. Eating meat isn't inately wrong. We are so removed from the process of butchering that it's shocking to us city folk. I even knew some kids in college that would eat chicken nugs, but were grossed out by drumsticks cuz they could "see the bone". Animals are also too personified in our culture all the time too. But that's a culture thing. Some asians eat dog, and although I dont, I don't think it's wrong to do so. but if you want to be a veggie thats cool go for it. I probably never will. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 2:49pm - __THeMoor__ ""] there is definitly something wrong with the meat industry here, but wrong enough to stop eating meat? i'm not sure. i have stopped eating fast food. once i realized what those corperations were doing to this contry/the world i simply just couldnt eat there anymore without feeling like a dick. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 2:55pm - DreamingInExile ""] humanbonedeathmachine said:next year ill take pics of the meatless fish in a bucket. it would make awesome CD cover art I'd love to see that... |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:00pm - dwellingsickness ""] PETA..... PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS! Time to go to Smokey Bones and consume some ribs and pulled pork |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:15pm - ArrowHead nli ""] We've got more important quandries to waste time on. Mortality, disease, cultural decline, etc. Some douchbag hippies that want to remove themselves from the food chain and preach about it isn't even worth our time. Rev however, I will respect your own decision since you have actually participated in the chain in a much closer way than most of the rest of us and based your decision upon that act, and not because some chick with hairy armpits told you to. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:16pm - ArrowHead nli ""] SOLOMAN, first cigars, now meat. You're gonna get on the PC hit-list soon with all these vices of yours. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:19pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] tomx said:on average, vegans die 5-7 years earlier than people who comsume meat, but abstain from red meat. not for nothing tom but I'd like to see you back that up with some kind of data. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:22pm - the_reverend ""] especailly since one of the most long lived population on the planet is in japan and they subsist majorly only tofu, rice, and some fish. here's the deal, no matter what you eat, eat healthy and smart. If you don't eat meat, balance it out with something else. if you don't eat oranges, don't get scurvey, balance it out with something else. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:28pm - soloman ""] ArrowHead nli said:SOLOMAN, first cigars, now meat. You're gonna get on the PC hit-list soon with all these vices of yours. oh well |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:37pm - ArrowHead nli ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:tomx said:on average, vegans die 5-7 years earlier than people who comsume meat, but abstain from red meat. not for nothing tom but I'd like to see you back that up with some kind of data. He could. I've seen the same figures. However, the study wasn't published because there were too few participants and too many variables. PUBLISHED studies show that immunities are lower in vegans, cholesterol rates are lower, and squirty shits are much more frequent in vegans. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:38pm - ArrowHead nli ""] by the way, studies of immunities were on vegans who DID NOT take daily supplements or substitute nutrition. Immunities were the SAME in groups who did. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:42pm - ArrowHead nli ""] the_reverend said:especailly since one of the most long lived population on the planet is in japan and they subsist majorly only tofu, rice, and some fish. Again, shoddy evidence due to too many variables. From a difference in fossil fuel emissions to lower rates of skin cancers, there's way too many reasons besides food that could explain this. Besides, the Japanese DO eat a lot of red meat, but not NEARLY as high a percentage as us. The average McDonalds over there does about 1/2 - 3/4 the sales per population of it's american equivalent. And YES, fish sandwiches and salads account for a lot of it. here's the deal, no matter what you eat, eat healthy and smart. If you don't eat meat, balance it out with something else. if you don't eat oranges, don't get scurvey, balance it out with something else. The most intelligent and nutritionally sound thing anyone has said yet. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:43pm - ArrowHead nli ""] those quotes came out fucked up. What, is it case sensitive? |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:44pm - the_reverend ""] I'm not sure.. but I can look at it when I get home. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:48pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Another note - the Japanese consume a SHITLOAD of carbs. From fish rolls to noodles to doughballs. Why're they all so fucking skinny? I think Atkins was fucking with us. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:51pm - anonymous ""] ArrowHead nli said: And YES, fish sandwiches and salads account for a lot of it. Aren't McDonald's fish sandwiches like 95% Lard? |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:53pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] ^ Me |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:56pm - the_reverend ""] they eat high carbs, lo fat... the exact opposite of atkins. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 3:59pm - ArrowHead nli ""] They eat lo-fat? All of them do? Damn, Lo-Fat is a mad whore. |
| _____________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:06pm - nate ""] I had this awesome chimichanga last night with shredded beef (tons of it), tons of cheese, beans, etc... oh did I say it has BEEF in it? It was so good! I especially love hamburgers and steak tips. But to each his own. The problem I have with PETA people and militant vegans is that their words are falling on deaf ears for the most part. If you want to make a change in the world pick something that people might want to hear about. Most people today have already made up their minds whether or not they wanna eat meat or this and that. Rather than complaining of food that they eat or this person eats, think about how there are tons of people in America who don't even get a chance to eat most of the time. I'm not talking about the starving people in other countries, their governments should worry about them. I am talking about this country. Put down your carrots or your steaks and help a fellow human out rather than bla bla bla bla... |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:06pm - soloman ""] the atkins diet is one of the most retarded things ever. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:06pm - largefreakatzero ""] "Anyone who wants to go to a slaughterhouse or check out PETA's videos will see-it's completely shocking," says Brian. "It's a lot easier just to see a Happy Meal than to see a carved-up carcass." Actually I think a happy meal is much more repulsive than a cut-up carcass. At least the cut-up carcass will be nice and fresh. Slaughterhouses aren't that shocking. My old band used to practice in one. I found it soothing. Oh yeah, and Shadows Fall is not good. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:11pm - soloman ""] there are a couple of vids on the cattle decapitation myspace page which are pretty grotesque. The skinned mink is insane. The animal is skinned alive and then sits there as a muscley bloody mess, still alive afterwards. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:12pm - ArrowHead nli ""] soloman said:there are a couple of vids on the cattle decapitation myspace page which are pretty grotesque. The skinned mink is insane. The animal is skinned alive and then sits there as a muscley bloody mess, still alive afterwards. Why the fuck would they do that? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:23pm - farm dude ""] Soy products are actually worse for you than red meat in relation to health. First off i grew up on a farm which grew soy beans. you cannot eat them straight from the field because they are toxic. Also after they are picked they are given an acid bath to strip them of this toxin which also conaminates them with high levels unsaturated fat. Each soy bean is like eating a french fry, so for all those vegans out there thinking they are eating healthy by eating soy products, you might wanna stop cuz in actuality you are slowly introducing man made toxins in your body which can break your immune system down and make you more susceptible to disease, most notably colon cancer. Oh well, as long as you vegans keep eating soy products, we'll keep growing em' . By the way, soy products werent even available until 1958, before that soy products were used as a form of diesel gasoline most commonly found in tractors because it last longer than conventional gasoline. bon apetite vegan fuckers! |
| _____________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:24pm - nate ""] soloman said:there are a couple of vids on the cattle decapitation myspace page which are pretty grotesque. The skinned mink is insane. The animal is skinned alive and then sits there as a muscley bloody mess, still alive afterwards. that's one of the fucked things about the extreme vegans... they figure they will shock someone into not wanting to eat the meat or where the jacket by showing how cruel it is. Rewind the clock a few thousand years and think about how those animals felt when ole caveman came around the corner with a sharpened rock and skinned him alive. :shocked: Come on, gimme a break. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 4:30pm - soloman ""] nate said:soloman said:there are a couple of vids on the cattle decapitation myspace page which are pretty grotesque. The skinned mink is insane. The animal is skinned alive and then sits there as a muscley bloody mess, still alive afterwards. that's one of the fucked things about the extreme vegans... they figure they will shock someone into not wanting to eat the meat or where the jacket by showing how cruel it is. Rewind the clock a few thousand years and think about how those animals felt when ole caveman came around the corner with a sharpened rock and skinned him alive. :shocked: Come on, gimme a break. agreed. It's propaganda. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 6:32pm - intestineshredder ""] we'll im glad im not a fucking mink or cow, humans rule, only predator we gotta look out for is for ourselves! practicing in a slaughterhouse must kick ass! Now thats inspiration for a death metal album if i ever heard one! |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 6:34pm - intestineshredder ""] If the lead singer from shadows fall doesnt eat meat, than how the hell can he tour through europe, i mean seriously all those people eat over there is meat, shit he must have eaten alot of bread and cheese, bet it felt good to come home and take a nice american dump after that tour! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 7:10pm - Dissector ""] the_reverend said:damn.. there's a hell of a lot of responses to this. personally, I choose not to consume animals. hopefully, someone here dies of mad cow disease. and then dissector will write a song about you. You know we will! |
| ______________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:06pm - blue ""] go veggie bitches |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:34pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Basic it boils down to this: no self-respecting heterosexual man would abstain from eating meat. I can provide a huge, totally vague, biased, and completely and utterly scientifically unsound rap sheet of reports that can prove my side of the argument. also my dick is the size of Madagascar. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:35pm - blue ""] which is why i am neither hetero, nor male. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:35pm - powerkok ""] soloman said:there are a couple of vids on the cattle decapitation myspace page which are pretty grotesque. The skinned mink is insane. The animal is skinned alive and then sits there as a muscley bloody mess, still alive afterwards. But we dont eat minks, so thats the fur industry's problem. Plus it was in china or some shit, Ive seen the video. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:37pm - powerkok ""] the_reverend said:I think that if you can't go out an kill, skin, and cook a cow/deer/chicken/fish/wombat then you shouldn't be allowed to buy them at shaw's or mcd's. If it were up to me, I would make a licensing process for eating meat. It would have a bunch of pictures of animals on it. when you kill one, that animal gets x'd out. and then you can buy them at the store from that time forth. Sign me up!!! I'd be a platinum member. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:38pm - powerkok ""] blue said:go veggie bitches Im telling Ted Nugent! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 8,2005 11:41pm - powerkok ""] I dont understand why alot of people associate mcd's with red meat. Mcd's is NOT red meat, its mystery meat. It may say 100% pure beef, and it is, but its not ONLY 100% pure beef. It's made with SOME beef, and who knows the rest. earthworms, horse, soy, coagulated blood...who knows, but when red meat is spoken, I picture a nice ribeye steak, not a mcheartattackwich. |