Diets, Lifestyles, and Losing Weight[views:10137][posts:93]__________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:47am - Martins ""] I've been fat for a very long time. For years, I've tried on and off losing weight and exercising. I've definitely felt the best when exercising regularly to semi-regularly but there was always something missing. I was eating 3 meals a day like most of you do and feeling lethargic most of the day. I'd get to the gym already tired. Not good. Then, almost a month ago now, a friend, who is getting into diet and nutritional theory on the side, turned me on to the Warrior Diet. The Warrior Diet is a diet using cycles, and correct eating habits. For ~20 hours a day, I practice controlled fasting, called the "undereating phase" of the warrior diet. I will eat little to no food, though if I am hungry I'll eat something raw: walnuts, a clementine, etc. It has to be under 400 kcals (Calories) of raw, unprocessed and, if possible, organic food. I will drink a LOT of water, tea, and coffee though. No sugar or cream. Then comes the most important part, the "overeating phase." In these last 4 hours of the day, I eat until I'm not hungry anymore. For this part of the day, you can literally eat anything you want as long as it's not over-processed or synthetic food... which is something you should be avoiding like the plague anyway. For my diet, I'm generally trying to keep a high fat, low carb diet to put my body in a controlled state of ketosis in which the body using its fat reserves (ingested fat and body fat) to burn off the most fat. Every other day or every two days, I will throw some more carbs in there because the results of long periods of ketosis is unknown and I'm not really willing to take the risk. This is my fourth week of doing the diet. I haven't gone to the gym (the Warrior diet is slightly modified for active people) or worked out since starting it and, so far, I've lost 15 pounds. I feel better than ever. Alert and awake during the day and satisfied at night after the large meal. The way the diet works is that it puts your body into a sort of survival mode during the day, an instinctual response to low caloric intake that has been suppressed by eating multiple times during the day, which burns fat for fuel, detoxifies your system, and boosts your immune system. At night, the relaxation instinct takes hold and you just feel good. Eventually, the high of eating is supposed to be comparable to sex and working out. A lot of people may call this a fad diet, or dangerous, but they simply haven't done the research or looked to humans' historical lifestyles. The Warrior Diet is literally simulating our days as hunter-gatherers. You will feel more primal, focused, strong. I know I do. Like I said, I feel better than ever. My body is in sync with my circadian clock. I will sleep exactly 9 hours a night and wake up fully aware. It's awesome. If anyone is interested, you can pick up the book "The Warrior Diet" by Ori Hofmekler. It's a great read, easy to understand, and will change your life. tl;dr I lost weight lol |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:50am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i think i've been on this diet without knowing it. maybe thats why i lost weight and couldnt figure out why. need to get my ass back in the gym though |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:52am - dreadkill ""] i need to try this. i, however, rack disciprine |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:54am - arilliusbm ""] wall of text, not going to read. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 11:57am - dreadkill ""] i read it twice |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:07pm - sinistas ""] At this point, I think the only way I'm going to lose weight is in the decomposition phase :/ |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:10pm - goatcatalyst ""] The Man Diet: Drink beer and eat pussy til your jaw falls off. Goddamn. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:34pm - xmikex ""] This sounds viable for someone trying to lose weight, but not someone trying to gain muscle mass or strength. Props for being proactive about your weight loss, and not just giving up because a diet or two didn't work. I'm still a big subscriber of the 5 small meals and a gallon of water a day plus cardio and weight lifting to smash your unwanted lbs. Get your metabolism going faster than Carl Lewis. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:39pm - the_reverend ""] thought this was serious... DRINK MEAD PUSSIES. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:42pm - Martins ""] Actually, eating 5 meals a day activates the parasympathatetic response 5 times a day. That's 5 times that you're telling your body to slow your metabolism and relax. I kind of glossed over it, but the Warrior Diet has extensive provisions for gaining muscle mass and strength. I'm not stressing that part yet because I'm not going to be going to the gym until I get back to school in January. If you look up the guy who developed the diet, he's by no means just a thin guy. He's ripped. Seriously, check this out. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:46pm - Martins ""] arilliusbm said:wall of text, not going to read. There are many breaks, thus not a wall of text. |
| ________________________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:47pm - Martins the 7th grade health teacher ""] Hey gauys listen. Up. Eat 9 meals a day or you're a pussy |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:50pm - Martins ""] God dammit, aril or whoever you are. I wanted to start a serious fucking thread for once. This has seriously changed my life and how I feel and act on a day to day basis. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:51pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Very interested. This sounds pretty close to what I do when I'm in a "let's lose weight" state of mind (or a "shit we're broke this week" one). I do feel like a fucking animal when I'm on one of those kicks, and I kinda like it. I have one of those metabolisms that responds to pretty much anything, though, which is the only reason I'm able to work in IT and not need a scooter to cart my immobile ass around - YMMV. Makes getting home and smoking a bowl 20X more relaxing/rewarding, too. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:52pm - Martins ""] Exactly, the night time eating phase is supposed to be relaxing and anything you do will feel ten times more relaxing. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:53pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I like Ryan's diet, too. Perhaps a synthesis is in order. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:54pm - Martins ""] Haha, with the Warrior Diet and if you're getting enough exercise you can have as much beer as you want during the overeating period. It is a lot of carbs though so it won't be good for losing weight. |
| ________________________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:55pm - Martins the 7th grade health teacher ""] Hey gauyz listen up. Rttp is serious business |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:56pm - Martins ""] Obnoxious. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:57pm - xmikex ""] Martins%20the%207th%20grade%20health%20teacher said:Hey gauys listen. Up. Eat 9 meals a day or you're a pussy lawlz I'm kind of interested in trying the warrior diet out actually. Maybe during a rest period or something. I feel like if I fast all day and try and do 3 hours worth of Muay Thai a trip to the hospital will be in order at some point. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:58pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] So I guess Aaron was right about the mead. Makes perfect sense. Now all I need is a drinking horn. |
| ________________________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:58pm - Martins the 7th grade health teacher ""] Hey gauys I'm the rttp king don't mess with my threads cuz I'm always serious khed. I used to be fat but now im a diet king. Listen up kidz |
| __________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 12:59pm - Martins ""] xmikex said: Martins%20the%207th%20grade%20health%20teacher said:Hey gauys listen. Up. Eat 9 meals a day or you're a pussy lawlz I'm kind of interested in trying the warrior diet out actually. Maybe during a rest period or something. I feel like if I fast all day and try and do 3 hours worth of Muay Thai a trip to the hospital will be in order at some point. Nope. If you want though, you can have some small protein snacks or a fruit. You can have organic pure whey, some nuts and seeds. You will go into it with more energy. After the workout, make sure to have a small recovery meal or your big meal for the night. |
| _______________________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:01pm - Martins the 7th grade health teacher ""] listen up dudes you're all a bunch of know nothing faggots. Lemme eat my analog diets or you're a pussy |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:03pm - Martins ""] hahaha analog diets hahaha awesome @xmikex, I just meant that you won't be going to the hospital. Unless you feel like practicing Muay Thai there too. |
| _______________________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:04pm - Martins the 7th grade health teacher ""] Shut the fuck up you fat fuck. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:18pm - ZenErik ""] I lost 10 pounds by only drinking water and tea instead of juice, milk, coffee, etc. As far as food, haven't really changed a thing. Guess I've never needed a controlled diet. My metabolism takes care of everything for me. :P But I'm sure the time will come when I can't eat anything and everything anymore. :( |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:20pm - Martins ""] How long did those ten pounds take? Just curious. Some people's metabolisms are nice and spunky. Mine has been hindered by years of eating too many times. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:22pm - martins the curious fatty ""] LOLZ LOOK AT ME |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:28pm - ZenErik ""] Good question. I'd say it was 3 or 4 weeks. Since then I haven't lost any more weight, which is fine with me. Maybe it will benefit you more? It will also help make your skin healthier. You'll soon be a beauty queen. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:29pm - Yeti ""] fail troll. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:29pm - Martins ""] No, I already only drink water and tea haha, I was just curious. LOLZ LOOK AT ME |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:29pm - dreadkill ""] goatcatalyst said:The Man Diet: Drink beer and eat pussy til your jaw falls off. Goddamn.the phil anselmo diet |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:30pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] The anonymous thing is getting REAL gay guys. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:31pm - ZenErik ""] NICE. Seems like you're off to a good start. Do you have some sort of target weight? |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:31pm - Martins ""] @ arrowhead I would agree but then I would get trolled by the anonymous guy for agreeing, lol. @ZenErik I just want to get to a comfortable weight. A dream target would be 180 - 190 for my height and muscle mass but I'd be comfortable around 200-220. I'm probably a few months away from that though. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:31pm - arilliusbm ""] ArrowHeadNLI said:The anonymous thing is getting REAL gay guys. Yea, almost as gay as a diet thread on a metal board. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:33pm - Martins ""] *lifestyle thread Metalheads = fat. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:35pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Speaking of which, I hear the Anonymous Gay Diet works wonders. 16 oz of protein shake delivered through a glory hole daily. They recommend you walk to the bar for extra dropping of poundage. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:35pm - arilliusbm ""] This is why I wish rev would split this forum up into topics sometimes. I come here to talk about music, throw conspiracies out there to piss you guys off, and talk about music again. Martins, you're not only guilty of starting some pretty gay threads, but you talk about music a lot too, which is good. So you're neautral. Rev - split forum plz |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:35pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] For dessert you get a appletini. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:36pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] There's been a lot of discussion of health and exercise on this board. Rev, myself, and many others here actually make an effort to take care of ourselves and are interested in this shit. This is just the first such discussion penetrated by the third grade anonymous crap. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:36pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] NO RTTP WITHOUT /R/ |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:37pm - Martins ""] Splitting the forum would make this place less awesome. I always just viewed it as a place to talk to people who are generally into the same stuff as you. Who cares what the topic is about... Now, please, back to my new gay lifestyle. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:38pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] arilliusbm said:This is why I wish rev would split this forum up into topics sometimes. I come here to talk about music, throw conspiracies out there to piss you guys off, and talk about music again. Martins, you're not only guilty of starting some pretty gay threads, but you talk about music a lot too, which is good. So you're neautral. Rev - split forum plz Try reading thread titles? It works for me! It's how I manage to post in your constructive threads about music, and completely avoid (or quietly absorb) your conspiracy threads. Works well, and no need for anonymous poopycock. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:38pm - arilliusbm ""] Go to iVillage then, faggots. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:40pm - Martins ""] Your persona is really hard to pin down. Internet, I suppose. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:40pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] And to stay on topic: Good job on your results Martins. Now start mixing in excercise to give another jolt to your metabolism. Sounds like you're on your way from having tits like a girl to having tits that attract girls. I'm just kidding, I've never seen you. Your tits might be nice already. [edit to spell "Martins" right] |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:40pm - arilliusbm ""] There is no persona. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:41pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] Martins said:Your persona is really hard to pin down. Internet, I suppose. Mine? |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:42pm - Martins ""] aril's lawl |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:42pm - arilliusbm ""] If you want my 2 cents on this topic: exercise. I don't do any of this diet bullshit other than cutting down on fast-food type stuff. Exercise is the best for you, no matter what you're eating. Run a few miles and lift weights. I used to be in great shape when I played sports, but now I've got some moobs going on. I just got a year membership to the Y, which is going to help a lot. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:43pm - Martins ""] Did you read the first post of this at all? |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:46pm - arilliusbm ""] Wall of text, like I said. I skimmed through it. There's no need for me to. What I've done in the past worked for me, so I'm going back to what worked. If it fails, then I'll try this diet nonsense. I went from weighing 175 in highschool to weighing 235 pounds right now. Keep in mind, I'm just about 6'6'' so I'm not morbidly obese. I plan on exercising and weight training. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:47pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] Actually, if you'd like to participate seriously we could begin by steering you toward recent articles showing that exercise plays a MUCH SMALLER role in weight loss than we previously believed. It's good for building muschle mass and absolutely CRUCIAL for cardiovascular health, but for moobs it's not the best option. Diet will stimulate metabolism much more than exercise will, faster and more results as well. Ultimately the best idea is a well proportioned balance of all - Diet, excercise, weight training, and CONSTANT masturbation. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:48pm - arilliusbm ""] Yea, I'm more concerned about building muscle mass than losing a lot of weight. Ideally, I just want to lose my slight beer gut and moobs. And yea, it involves changing your diet. As far following a diet plan? Like I said, if what I have in mind fails then I'll try. If it works I'll owe Martin money. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:49pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] arilliusbm said:If you want my 2 cents on this topic: exercise. I don't do any of this diet bullshit other than cutting down on fast-food type stuff. Exercise is the best for you, no matter what you're eating. Run a few miles and lift weights. I used to be in great shape when I played sports, but now I've got some moobs going on. I just got a year membership to the Y, which is going to help a lot. My plan recommends a membership at the YMCA. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:50pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Or just a member. Or twelve. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:50pm - arilliusbm ""] What's the best way to get rid of a love handles? |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:53pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Machetectomy. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:54pm - arilliusbm ""] You know what? Fuck it, I may try this diet. Need moar walnuts. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:54pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] arilliusbm said: If it works I'll owe Martin money. Ideally what will happen is Martins should lose a ton of weight, get jacked up, and slap you around for mocking his diet. Then you renew your friendship through hours of Dr. Phil style counseling. http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/07/lawsuit-dr-phil-trapped-me-touched-my-boob/ |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:55pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] arilliusbm said:You know what? Fuck it, I may try this diet. Need moar walnuts. If you're looking to get jacked up, you need the "Holy shit thats a lot of pasta and sausage and meatballs" diet! It's crucial. Carbs, protein, and soylent farts. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 1:57pm - arilliusbm ""] My primary focus before gaining muscle mass is getting rid of the love handles and moobs before it gets anyworse. You know it's bad when you're jogging and your chest is bouncing up and down. At the same time, it's somewhat arousing. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Martins, how much do you weigh? 300+? |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:01pm - Martins ""] Actually, don't eat soy. Soy is a great source of protein but only in fermented forms where the estrogen levels are lower. Better sources of protein are nuts, meats, and some vegetables. Stubborn fat is caused by elevated estrogen levels. The less estrogen you intake and create, the easier it will be to lose any stubborn fat. Carbs are great for gaining muscle mass but only in a timed application. After a day or two of high-fat-intake days, a day of high-carb-intake will quickly boost the speed of muscle gain. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:02pm - Martins ""] Right now I'm ~250. I got scared silly ~2 months ago when the doctor told me I was 270. It's the heaviest I've ever been. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:03pm - arilliusbm ""] Too many RPGs. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:04pm - Martins ""] Not enough, if anything. I was playing Scribblenauts then, I believe. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:05pm - arilliusbm ""] I noticed I gained almost all my weight when I was in a deep depression 3-4 years ago |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:08pm - Martins ""] Makes sense (but sucks). |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:10pm - arilliusbm ""] I want to be able to dunk the basketball again. I'll be glad to school anyone on this board's ass in basketball once I'm in shape. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:13pm - Martins ""] I always hated basketball. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:14pm - arilliusbm ""] Martins said:I always hated basketball. Because you were a fat kid? LOL |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 2:17pm - Martins ""] LOL YES |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:17pm - metalguy_2 ""] I found that starving yourself completely and drinking lots of coffee is the best way to lose weight. Drinking a bunch can help if you stick to not eating anything. If you must eat something keep it down to 500 calories a day. Runs miles, and drink a lot of water and you will look like heman. :-) That diet sounds like it will work but it seems like it can fuck up your metabolism real good. I support 5 meals / and regular exercise. If you are eating the right food and follow and workout plan., you will not only feel a whole lot better but you can gain muscle mass depending on how you work out and what you are eating. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:22pm - Martins ""] Almost everything you said completely contradicts almost everything else you said. Sure you can starve yourself, if you want to become anorexic or die. As I said before, eating multiple times a day slows down your metabolism that many times. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:25pm - metalfuck ""] the warrior diet will cause diabetes in time, it's not healthy at all. but good luck. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:25pm - goatcatalyst ""] i didn't read much of this thread, but this seems right at home here [img] |
| _________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:27pm - Martins ""] metalfuck said:the warrior diet will cause diabetes in time, it's not healthy at all. but good luck. Contrary to your statement, the Warrior Diet keeps your insulin levels steady, can prevent diabetes, and is completely healthy. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:38pm - metalfuck ""] don't forget to do the master cleanse diet and if that doesn't work, i hear this new thing called atkins is great too! |
| ____________________________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:43pm - martins the curious fatty ""] Lolz hey metalfag you suck |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:44pm - the_reverend ""] I was suppose to go to the gym today.. last time I went was wednesday, but I don't have time to go to brokencyde or to the gym. lame. The next time I can go is sunday I think. double lame. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 4:45pm - the_reverend ""] I would say mayb I can go in the AM, but I know that that isn't going to happen. |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 5:06pm - ryan_nli ""] everyone has their own tricks for loosing weight. you just need to try things out and see what works for you. I got tired of being over weight so i replaced a few things in my diet. instead of soda, i drink water, instead of butter, i use that fake stuff and instead of white bread i use wheat bread. little things like that. i also cut out shitty food like pizza and fried food. i usually "cheat" on the weekends. i think it helps that i dont drink and i dont eat meat. come to think of it, i cant believe i got so fat without those two things. i run 2-4 miles between 4 and 5 days a week and i have lost 40 pounds since may. seems like if a diet is too good to be true, it is. if you dont feel like you are working hard, and you are still loosing weight, then most likely you will just gain it all back. key to loosing weight and keeping it off is a matter of changing your life. you work hard, you get results. my 2 cents |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 5:19pm - trioxin245 ""] Martins said:I've been fat for a very long time. hahah |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 5:50pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 13,2009 8:55pm - Phrozenspite ""] I agree its cool to see that you're trying something and getting results... just don't get discouraged by weight plateaus and you'll be fine. I've been dieting and getting back into shape myself. I think I was about 290 last year and I'm down to about 230 now and counting. My diet wouldn't work for everyone but i eat fast food and pizza every day of the week but i've cut out soda and drink lots of water now... I eat cheerios for breakfast, go to school and have whatever i want for lunch than come home and have a small frozen pizza or sandwich for dinner. As far as exercise I do some cardio every day except for the weekends and on monday wednesday friday I endurance train with resistance. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 9:44am - xmikex ""] Maybe I just like the 5 meals a day thing because it lets me eat allllll the time. I think I'm going to try the warrior diet for a week or 2 at some point when I learn some more about it. I've been stuck at 180 for a while now and I'd like to try and trim it down to 170. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 9:44am - arilliusbm ""] Martins, RTTP's version of Subway's Jarrod. |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 10:24am - largefreakatzero ""] Eat less. Exercise more. Simplify, maaaaaan. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 12:17pm - xmikex ""] Martins, lemme run this one by you since you're the resident authority on the warrior diet. The way my schedule works is that after I train I don't get home until 9 or 10 at night usually. I usually have a shake when I get home. Would the warrior diet big nightime meal hurt me more because I'm eating it so close to when I goto sleep? |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 12:24pm - anonymous ""] weight loss happens when you burn more calories than you consume. assuming you fast all day and eat a 1,000-1,200 calorie meal at night you're still going to lose weight. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 12:48pm - Martins ""] xmikex said:Martins, lemme run this one by you since you're the resident authority on the warrior diet. The way my schedule works is that after I train I don't get home until 9 or 10 at night usually. I usually have a shake when I get home. Would the warrior diet big nightime meal hurt me more because I'm eating it so close to when I goto sleep? This I'm not really sure of. I did it last night though because I got home late and I felt fine and feel fine today. I'm pretty sure that the whole detoxification process happens the next day anyway so that should be okay. I can ask someone over at the Warrior Diet forum or search the book's overeating phase section for something on that. |