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[beef] ATTN: Dudes that lift

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[Mar 16,2009 3:18pm - sxealex ""]

the_reverend said:http://www.slickdeals.net/permadeal/19087/5-lb-Tub-100-Whey-Protein-Gold-Standard-vanilla-or-cookies--cream-34-or-10-lb-66


it would be easier to shove a 20lb rock up your ass and shit it out.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:21pm - the_reverend ""]
I like the cut of your jib.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:26pm - SapremiaNJ ""]

largefreakatzero said:
SapremiaNJ said:6'4 does not help at all. Im only 5'10, shorter arms much easier for the lift. I know i cant do 445 now, i dont even think id attempt anything near 400 unless i train for it. My elbows have been getting increasingly worse, i have adjusted my workouts accordingly. I started using Glucosamine/Chondrotin and it has helped some with both my elbows and knees.


Sucks getting old, huh? I've been on the Gluc/Chon. religiously for probably about 3 years -- it definitely helps. Also try an Omega 3 Fatty Acid -- will also aid in joint health.



Yes, sucks indeed!
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[Mar 16,2009 3:27pm - SapremiaNJ ""]

the_reverend said:yes, I will be there.

I need to get back on the omega 3. I is so smrt.



Okay good, ill hit you up with the disc so you can see all your pretty pics inside.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:34pm - xmikex ""]
I'll def try out pause pressing. My bench pressing has definitely come a long way in the last 2 years. I've got super long skinny arms so I won't be touching anywhere near the weight you two zoo animals have been pressing, but I'm looking forward to trying out some new stuff.

If anyone (who doesn't bench 400+) is looking for a humbling weight circuit give this a shot:
http://buildingbodies.ca/exercise/randy-co...uture-workout-for-mma-conditioning/

It's a routine that Randy Couture developed. It's:
8 bent over rows
8 upright rows
8 military presses
8 good mornings
8 split squats right
8 split squats left
8 squats with a push press
8 straight leg deadlifts

You do them with light weight. The premise here isn't huge lifts, but getting all your reps in at a steady pace, and you don't put the bar down until all the exercises are done. 3-6 sets (6 or you're a pussy) 60 seconds rest in between. Pray to God you land on something soft when you pass out.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:44pm - narkybark ""]
TICKETS TO THE GUNSHOW
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[Mar 16,2009 3:54pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
I wish Billy Mays would tell us about the fitness benefits of IRON GYM
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[Mar 16,2009 4:03pm - the_reverend ""]

SapremiaNJ said:
the_reverend said:yes, I will be there.

I need to get back on the omega 3. I is so smrt.



Okay good, ill hit you up with the disc so you can see all your pretty pics inside.

If you could give me one for me and one for WUNH, that would be peachy. Then I can finally play it on the radio.
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[Mar 16,2009 4:09pm - timtirpation  ""]
I use under armor batting gloves that have a leather layer on the inside of the palm and fingers. They work sweet, plus keep your whole hand protected from the disgustingness of 80 other doodz using the same free weights.
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[Mar 16,2009 4:10pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
Ive been known to be peachy before.
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[Mar 16,2009 4:38pm - corpus_colostomy ""]
mike grab some at good health on hancock. they have some shiz.
to all those pooh poohing trainging with gloves--
i to was a purist..no gloves, only chalk.
but when you really throw weight around you get callouses...said callouses were getting repeatedly ripped off with the 100lbs dumbells and that sucked.

315 club here.
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[Mar 16,2009 4:44pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
My workout routine is no where near as extensive as yoos gais.

I stretch for about 10-15 minutes, elliptical for 20 minutes, weights and weight machines for about 20-30 then treadmill for 45.
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[Mar 16,2009 4:54pm - PIKACHU  ""]
PIIIIIII-KA-PI-KA-PI-KA!!!
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[Mar 16,2009 4:56pm - corpus_colostomy ""]

MillenialKingdom said:My workout routine is no where near as extensive as yoos gais.

I stretch my anus for about 10-15 minutes, elliptical for 20 minutes, weight machines for about 20-30 then jazzercise for 45.



fix'd.
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[Mar 16,2009 5:20pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde  ""]
IN B4 "CONQUEER THE FAGGOGAY"
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[Mar 16,2009 5:31pm - xmikex ""]
Everybaa'dy wanna be a jazzerciser. Don't nobody wanna put rhinestones on their leotard. YEAH BUDDAY!
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[Mar 16,2009 5:33pm - corpus_colostomy ""]

xmikex said:Everybaa'dy wanna be a jazzerciser. Don't nobody wanna put rhinestones on their leotard. YEAH BUDDAY!


lol.



bennyhillifier


"LIGHTS OUT."
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[Mar 16,2009 5:38pm - josh_hates_you ""]
www.stronglifts.com

I was doing the 5x5 and eating about 3500 calories a day including 150-200 grams of protein. Went from 150 lbs to 170 in about 6 weeks. Then I got sick and did not eat or sleep for 5 days and have not been motivated to start back up again. Eating that much takes effort. Will most likely start again and eat 3000 calories instead.

Don't use gloves or belts.
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[Mar 16,2009 5:45pm - corpus_colostomy ""]

josh_hates_you said:www.stronglifts.com

I was doing the 5x5 and eating about 3500 calories a day including 150-200 grams of protein. Went from 150 lbs to 170 in about 6 weeks. Then I got sick and did not eat or sleep for 5 days and have not been motivated to start back up again. Eating that much takes effort. Will most likely start again and eat 3000 calories instead.

Don't use gloves or belts.



ok your diet was conceptually pretty good but what were your training habits like?
what protein and suppliments were you taking?
how many days rest?
3k cals is a solid idea and the general rule of thumb for protein is grams = lbs.

example: if you weigh 200 lbs you need 200 grams. 250 lbs = 250 grams etc. the optimum nutrition gainer is excellent. 600 cals and 60 grams of protein (cassein, whey and egg) in one scoop. very light, not to milky.
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[Mar 16,2009 6:52pm - Justin Steele  ""]
I used to be obsessed with lifting heavy. Got up to benching 250, squatting 365 and dead lifting 405 (all 1rm). After hurting my lower back I continued trying to lift heavy but I just don't have the body type for it. My shoulders ached and my knees creeked (27 going on 80?). Now I focus on conditioning and stamina. Also, I pretty much eliminated weights from my routine and use resistance bands. Like I said, my joints hurt mercilessly if I lift heavy and the bands don't provoke the slamming of joints like weights.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:04pm - corpus_colostomy ""]

Justin%20Steele said:I used to be obsessed with lifting heavy. Got up to benching 250, squatting 365 and dead lifting 405 (all 1rm). After hurting my lower back I continued trying to lift heavy but I just don't have the body type for it. My shoulders ached and my knees creeked (27 going on 80?). Now I focus on conditioning and stamina. Also, I pretty much eliminated weights from my routine and use resistance bands. Like I said, my joints hurt mercilessly if I lift heavy and the bands don't provoke the slamming of joints like weights.


check your pH sometime. if your on the acidic side of things it will have a neg and degenerative effect on your joints but you can help that with taking collagen suppliments..bovine is good but biosil chicken collagen type 2 is best and most researched. if your looking to hydrate joints and add lubrication, hyaluronic acid is excellent. if your looking to alkalize your pH, try world organic chlorophyll. dont work harder, work smarter.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:30pm - JustinSteele ""]
I'll look into that stuff, thanks
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[Mar 16,2009 7:36pm - niccolai ""]

xmikex said:
Nicc,
That's not a bad idea. Essentially it's the same thing, only I feel like it'd chew up my boxing wraps.



my wraps dont get messed up, and they are nEverlast.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:37pm - niccolai ""]
even just taping your hands would work fine, but you'd look like a pretty big douche in a public gym with taped hands.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:40pm - the_reverend ""]
my little brother started as 215-ish flabby. then bulked up to a hulkulent 260lbs, but all he was doing when he wasn't at the gym was eating. I remember him benching 280 x 10 for the first time. I believe I did 90 that day. Then go figure, with all the squats, etc... he's now on the list to have his knees reconstructed.

Personally, I'm always changing what I do a little and I like some of the results so far. I've got more muscles than ever and 3 days after I left, I feel like heman (cause I'm not sore anymore). The 3 weeks before I went to florida, I was going 3-4 times a week for 3hrs typically. I was starting to see abs for the first time since I was 4.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:40pm - niccolai ""]
also, to the no glove, no wrap dudes out there, wrapping/gloving your hands is one of the most important things you can do to provent wrist injury further down the line.

my warm up for maori mao is just a 10-15 minute steady jog. No static stretching, no silly fucking yoga or arobics.

I do this on an eliptical, actual running takes it's toll on my knees.
steadily jogging is the best thing you can do for your muscles.


all my weight lifting is done AFTER grappling and everything is low weight, high rep.

I've lost almost 50 lbs doing this, haven't had to change my diet or worry about buying all this crazy shit from GNC.

I've added decent size and cut to my muscles, and I'm still one of the most flexible people you could immagine. I'm talking over head armbar from standing possition withough needing to jump.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:46pm - the_reverend ""]
do you wear gloves when you give your double handed bjs?
I think not!
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[Mar 16,2009 7:48pm - corpus_colostomy ""]

niccolai said:I've added decent size and cut to my muscles, and I'm still one of the most flexible people you could immagine. I'm talking over head armbar from standing possition withough needing to jump.


calm down.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:49pm - niccolai ""]
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what do you think?
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[Mar 16,2009 7:49pm - niccolai ""]

corpus_colostomy said:
niccolai said:I've added decent size and cut to my muscles, and I'm still one of the most flexible people you could immagine. I'm talking over head armbar from standing possition withough needing to jump.


calm down.



sorry brah, I have wicked roid rage.

alot of the dudes I work out with trying to body build can't reach thier puds to take a piss. I see all of them doing static stretches and lifting as a warmup before thier workouts and it's ruining thier flexibility and actually effecting what they can lift.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:54pm - the_reverend ""]

niccolai said:

what do you think?

That your elbows look like they should have nipples.
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[Mar 16,2009 7:55pm - the_reverend ""]
I really really really need to learn to do stretches before hand. it's like my kryptonite.

If I swallow my semen every day for a month, you think that would do anything?
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[Mar 16,2009 8:04pm - niccolai ""]
just be careful about what stretches you're doing.

I would consider switching your swimming to before your workout rev.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/sports/p...ine/112pewarm.html?_r=3&oref=slogin


stretching you're muscles doesn't haveto mean literally straining them. you just want to improve blood flow to them without causing the trauma that static stretching causes (which decreases your lifting ability)
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[Mar 16,2009 8:04pm - niccolai ""]
swallowing semen is ALWAYS beneficial.
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[Mar 16,2009 8:19pm - the_reverend ""]
that's what I try to tell "someone" and she doesn't listen to me.

there is no possible way or swimming first. since I have to shower after. It would be like working out with a gallon of bleach on your clothing.
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[Mar 16,2009 8:23pm - niccolai ""]
I never do static stretches. I jog or swim and I'm more flexible then any dude grabbing his toes and trying to toutch his elbows behind his back.
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[Mar 16,2009 8:26pm - Coma nli  ""]
I don't know how any of you can talk about mixing all these distinct workouts into a workout plan, stretches do not belong on a bill with bench presses; so not fucking grindcore.

I'd rather get smaller results than add random exercises that don't fit.
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[Mar 16,2009 8:33pm - niccolai ""]

Coma%20nli said:stretches do not belong on a bill with bench presses; so not fucking grindcore.




I disagree. improving bloodflow to your muscles is crucial before seemingly unrelated things like bench pressing.

it's important to me to retain my flexability as I tone my muscles, and it's important for me to be able to hit the bench at full strength and retain strenth after a weight session.

they might not be important to you if you're just a body builder, but I'm not. body builders tear realll easy.
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[Mar 16,2009 8:59pm - the_reverend ""]
STRETCHING IS WIGGER SLAM.
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[Mar 16,2009 9:53pm - xmikex ""]
I'm very glad that this thread spiraled way the hell off topic. It's been very informative so far.

As far as stretching is concerned I prefer quick static stretching followed by 5-10 minutes of jumping rope. I carry a lot of stress in my back, my neck, and in my legs and I sometimes get neck pains if I don't stretch decently before going into any cardio.

I'm glad that grappling was brought up. As much as I kind of hate grappling it's an amazing exercise. I had some pretty noticeable separation in my chest muscles after only a few months of grappling.
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[Mar 16,2009 10:08pm - the_reverend ""]
grappling like wrestling?

I can't do any sit ups at all cause I feel like puking. not sure what to do at the gym tomorrow cause my back is tweeked.
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[Mar 16,2009 10:17pm - My_Dying_Bride ""]
H20 > supplements

power lifting fucks you up more than it benefits IMHO
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[Mar 16,2009 10:36pm - niccolai ""]

xmikex said:I'm very glad that this thread spiraled way the hell off topic. It's been very informative so far.

As far as stretching is concerned I prefer quick static stretching followed by 5-10 minutes of jumping rope. I carry a lot of stress in my back, my neck, and in my legs and I sometimes get neck pains if I don't stretch decently before going into any cardio.

I'm glad that grappling was brought up. As much as I kind of hate grappling it's an amazing exercise. I had some pretty noticeable separation in my chest muscles after only a few months of grappling.



Your warm up is just the most important thing before you work out. to me it's more important then my diet, my weight load, etc.

and to get back on topic, for christ's sake, wrap your damn hands. I dont care how gay it looks or un natural it feels. You work out to be healthy... so you should work out with whatever tools will avoid injury and jeapordize said health.

Your joints and flexability are way more important than your muscles (for fighting any way) and if you don't take care of those two things, you're going to have a hard time molesting your grandkids when you're 68.

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[Mar 16,2009 10:38pm - niccolai ""]

the_reverend said:grappling like wrestling?

I can't do any sit ups at all cause I feel like puking. not sure what to do at the gym tomorrow cause my back is tweeked.



grappling is like wrestling except with submission and generally without 'pinning'. Think jui jitsu, judo, etc.
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[Mar 16,2009 10:43pm - the_reverend ""]
I'm going to learn jew jitzu?
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[Mar 16,2009 10:44pm - niccolai ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Mar 16,2009 10:51pm - the_reverend ""]
would you have have friends to do this?
I don't talk to anyone at the gym.
Just sweat like crazy and you will be slippery like and eel.
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[Mar 16,2009 10:54pm - xmikex ""]
Double heel hook attempts 30 seconds into the fight, 7 million deep arm bar attempts escaped...

not ridiculous at all.
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[Mar 16,2009 11:00pm - niccolai ""]
Thats a pretty intense fight.
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[Mar 16,2009 11:39pm - MillenialKingdom ""]

corpus_colostomy said:
MillenialKingdom said:My workout routine is no where near as extensive as yoos gais.

I stretch my anus for about 10-15 minutes, elliptical for 20 minutes, weight machines for about 20-30 then jazzercise for 45.



fix'd.



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